The Tim Ferriss Podcast is Live! Here Are Episodes 1 and 2



Fuckin’ A–it’s finally here!

After fantasizing about starting a podcast for nearly two years, after being asked hundreds of times, The Tim Ferriss Show is now live.

Sometimes you have to stop over-thinking things, bite the bullet, and figure it out as you go.

To launch, I’ve posted two episodes that are vastly different.

I have an important favor to ask, which I don’t do often:

1) Please listen to one or both episodes.
2) Then, PLEASE leave a review on iTunes.

I will read EVERY review and, based on that feedback, I’ll either stop or keep doing this podcast.  

If you seem to like them, I promise to do at least 6 total episodes in the next 1-2 months.  And trust me: I have some amazing people lined up and ready to go. Constructive criticism and suggestions for improvement are welcome, whether on iTunes or in the comments below.

All that said, here are the first two episodes! I really hope you enjoy them.


I consider Kevin Rose one of the best “stock pickers” in the startup world. He can predict even non-tech trends with stunning accuracy…

Kevin is a tech entrepreneur who co-founded Digg, Revision3 (sold to Discovery Channel), Pownce, and Milk (sold to Google). Since 2012, he is a venture partner at Google Ventures. He’s also a hilarious dude, and this episode involves heavy drinking.

In this finding-my-feet episode, Kevin and I get down on a bottle of Gamling and McDuck while discussing, among dozens of topics: why Kevin would love to work at McDonald’s, how he kicked my ass on the Twitter deal, and — just a wee tad — biohacking.

Dive in, folks!

It’s the first episode of The Tim Ferriss Show!  Listen to it here, and please subscribe!


Josh Waitzkin was the basis for the book and movie Searching for Bobby Fischer.

Considered a chess prodigy, he has perfected learning strategies that can be applied to anything, including his other loves of Brazilian jiu-jitsu (he’s a black belt under phenom Marcelo Garcia) and Tai Chi Push Hands (he’s a world champion). These days, he spends his time coaching the world’s top performers, whether Mark Messier, Cal Ripken Jr., or hedgefund managers.  I initially met Josh through his incredible book, The Art of Learning, which I loved so much that I helped produce the audiobook (download here, at Audible or DRM-free Gumroad).

This episode is DEEP, in the best way possible.  Josh will blow your mind.

And for a change from Episode 1, I’m totally sober.  I’d be curious to know which Tim you prefer.

Listen to it here, and please subscribe!

Show Notes for Episodes 1 and 2

Special thanks to my friend Ian for helping with show notes. Much obliged, kind sir.

These notes only partially cover the conversations, but they will give you a taste.


  • What makes a good wine bar?
  • The story of Kevin Rose: Growing up in Vegas, starting Digg, joining Google Ventures, and beyond
  • What makes Kevin Rose so good at predicting what’s next, spotting trends
  • The characteristics of winners. What makes a successful angel investor?
  • Hear the story of Odeo – The company that birthed Twitter
  • Tips on choosing angel investments

“What new app will find itself on the front screen of your iPhone?”

  • Dissecting the success of Philip Rosedale, Elon Musk and — the “Oracle of Silicon Valley” — Reid Hoffman
  • How to say no to an investment or pitch
  • Experiences and lessons learned running the roller coaster of Digg
  • Where is Kevin Rose world-class?  Which skills define his success?
  • The M7 chip on iPhone – An opportunity to build new apps
  • Learn more about My Basis, a biometric company that Tim invested in [Update: sold to Intuit for $100M]
  • Why Kevin wants to get a job at McDonald’s
  • Ideas and suggestions for the podcast. Where should it go, and how should it be different?


Connect with Kevin Rose: Instagram | Twitter | Website



Show Notes:

  • The origins of The Art of Learning.
  • What it takes to play 30-50 games of chess simultaneously (!).
  • About Josh’s focus on moving from world-class to world champion. How to cross the gap between the two
  • The many dimensions of Josh Waitzkin’s creative life:
  1. Family
  2. JW Foundation – The Art of Learning Project
  3. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ) school with Marcelo Garcia
  4. Consulting for “Master of the Universe”-type financiers; what commonalities the best have
  • About the learning (and UNlearning) processes that distinguish the good from the great and from the elite
  • Insights on the strategic movement from Tai Chi to BJJ
  • About the profound kinesthetic intelligence of Marcelo Garcia and how he uses it to “navigate the world”
  • A deep understanding of what makes world-class performers tick and thrive

“If you can really train people to get systematic about nurturing their creative process, it’s unbelievable what can happen. Most of that work relates to getting out of your own way at a very high level. It’s unlearning, it’s the constant practice of subtraction, reducing friction.” – Josh Waitzkin

  • Strategies for aligning peak energy periods with peak creativity to achieve a relentless, proactive lifestyle
  • On Hemingway’s creative writing process:
  1. End the workday with something left to write
  2. Release your mind from the work – Let Go
  • Understanding cognitive biases
  • Understanding how to use specific questions for deconstruction (e.g. “Who’s good at this who shouldn’t be?”)
  • Core themes/habits that Josh teaches to top performers:

Meditation | Journaling | “Undulation” (Capacity to turn drive on and off)

  • How Josh Waitzkin meditates
  • Meditation styles: contemplative Buddhist sitting meditation, Tai Chi and moving meditation.
  • What Josh’s morning rituals look like
  • Why you should study the artists rather than the art critics.
  • Remember to love.

“The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero uses his fear and projects it onto his opponent, while the coward runs.” – Cus D’Amato, original trainer of Mike Tyson


“One of the things we have to be wary in life is studying the people who study the artists, as opposed to the artists themselves” – Josh Waitzkin

The Waitzkin Library:


Posted on: April 22, 2014.

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181 comments on “The Tim Ferriss Podcast is Live! Here Are Episodes 1 and 2

  1. This is great. Please don’t leave it here.

    From a constructively critical point of view: I agree that a somewhat more structured approach would be good. Rapid fire questions are great and they should come in the middle for pacing reasons, but they should separate two sections. I’d suggest you start with the personal questions, then hit the rapid fire and then really delve in depth into philosophy and technique. Maybe a 25%, 15%, 60% split.

    Kevin we all know from the random show, that was a great start. Josh touched on something deeper on a personal level. Future interviews touching on various aspects of human potential would be absolutely awesome. And keep it relaxed, keep the swearing, keep it colloquial. “Real,” as you brothers across the pond like to say.

    People I’d love to see would include Ed Cooke, but not necessarily just on memorisation. What about tools that have the potential to really help people advance: does he believe in photoreading, for example? What’re his views on Derren Brown (and dear god, find meet and interview Derren, he’s a class act above most others).

    It’d also be great to hear of the Feynmans of our age. Most people wouldn’t be able to name a living scientist, unless they’re devoutly relgious or miliantly atheist in which case both groups name Richard Dawkins. But more than ever we have people pushing boundaries in ever increasing niches, and how their expertise relates to other things would be wonderul to hear. Make every scientist a Chris Hadfield – you’ve got the potential for that.

    Also, “the lay experiments”, by which I mean average person, not sex. It’d be awesome to choose and take and mentor people from various walks of life. Take someone who works 70 hours a week minimum wage to support a family, and turn them into someone that has more freedom and more time. Do it in multiple countries with multiple backgrounds. People love hope and aspiration. Imagine being the podcast Paolo Coehlo. TimTimTalkTalkHelpGuideSuccessShare – and that would diffuse like ripples across a pond.

    Above all else, find a direction and keep it focused. The TFX were great (I’ve only seen three so far, UK brothers help me find more), and they were in a set direction. This podcast goes in another, the random show in yet another, your books in yet another. They’re the roots of the Ferriss Tree.


      • Evelyn, you don’t need a Mac device. You can download in iTunes, for example, which doesn’t require a Mac. Personally I use an app called iPP Podcast Player, and subscribed through there. It’s on my Nexus and my Galaxy S4. Not an Apple fan


      • Evelyn, you can download iTunes to other devices. Just go to iTunes downloads… I won’t leave the link or Tim might bitch slap my ass out of here :) Anyway give it a shot and good luck!


  2. Fantastic Tim and thank you. I especially enjoyed the interview with Josh. I’ve given away more copies of The Art of Learning than any other book. I really enjoyed you and Josh riffing on learning. It brought to mind what I’ve learned of cognitive biases and a lot of take-aways for my own work. I did a short write-up on why “The Last Three Movements” are so important on my blog. I realized the Peak-End bias is to blame.

    In terms of constructive feedback (rather than just the jumping up and down in enthusiasm that you are pulling Josh out of the woodwork), I enjoyed the questions you had for Josh more than those for Kevin because they were so specific to what Josh is and does. But even so, many of the questions felt stilted. The preplanning almost got in the way of the flow of the interview. I much prefer sober to drunk Tim but that’s also just my bias in subject matter. I am interested in investing and inventing but I don’t remember nearly as many take-aways from Kevin’s interview. It wasn’t as relate-able or functional.

    A final point: you are always authentic in your interviews. It is one of the things that I most admire about you. And I heard a level of deeper connection with Josh than I have seen/heard before. Not sure why, but if there are other people you connect with in that way, I’d like to meet them on the podcast, too! Thanks and rock on! -Robin


  3. Hi Tim
    I loved the podcast and wanted to drop you a review here because iTunes is just dreadful – that’s definitely not the only place people are listening to your podcast. Most people I know use Pocket Casts. Anyway, the podcast was fantastic and I’m really glad that the lighter tone of the first episode gave way to a really in-depth conversation with Josh. I think the test of a really great podcast (as opposed to just a good one) is that it’s something you know you’ll go back to and listen to again and again, and the second episode was definitely that. I really hope that you continue to do this – and it would be fantastic if you could get Neil Gaiman on the show!


  4. Hey,
    I’m really sick of life and I don’t know what to do. I am now studying petroleum engineering at university but honestly I have no interest in it and as a matter of fact I hate mathematics and all this stuff and well you might ask how I got here, it’s a long story but to make it short I picked up this major for money and Now I really regret my decision. What I really like to do now is become fluent in English and finally an English teacher. In fact this is what I think about everyday. But there are some problems which I don’t know how to figure them out: the first thing is my parents and by that I mean that I can’t really tell them my plan and I’m afraid of it and I’m kind of thinking that I’m only wasting time going to university(I’m a senior). So I’m really confused and I don’t know how to confront it.
    I’m sorry because this has nothing to do with this post but I only wanted to share this to kind of feel a little less stressed and more calm. I do like to hear your advice for my situation.


  5. Instinctively my body says heat is very dangerous. But the health benefits are impressive. Sweating causes the body to shed toxins through our skin the biggest organ of all. I will often take a salt bath for 30 minutes and gain as much benefit as a 3 day fast. Feels good. The more muscle mass you have the better you can endure extremes. I give away a free body building report.


  6. Hey Tim,

    So I think the show was interesting, but I have 2 suggestions that could improve the show from a technical standpoint. These are non-content suggestions.

    1.) No offense to the sound engineer who made the intro and outro, I’m sure they are professional and are talented, but as someone who could makes audio clips/sound effects, it sounded very generic and uninspiring. You’ve got to think of the intro and outro as a primer that sets the mood for people’s emotions. I think as someone who has branded themselves as professional as you are, you need an intro and outro that all around just sounds better. I would be willing to make a new intro and outro for you and if you like it better, use it. I’d be willing to do it fro free- I recently returned from the Peace Corps and your books kept me sane while being gone for 2 years. If you’re interested in this, just contact me.

    2.) You need to either get a better mic, use your software/hardware better or do some better sound recording techniques while you record your sessions. During the first interview your voice clipped a few times, which made me cringe because it’s very simple to stop this depending on what software you are using to do the show and also your mic techniques. Also, it sounds like you are in a highly reflective room, which doesn’t sound good. Use some thick blankets and/or carpets and reduce wall reflection by propping them vertically and underneath you.


  7. Looking forward to these!!!! Just a side note, Tim: you can only find the Stitcher podcast if you search for Josh’s name, not yours. Kind of odd, I’m probably not the first person to post this, but wanted to pass it on.


  8. Wow, episode 2 with Josh Waitzkin is one of the best podcasts I have ever had the pleasure of listening to. Normally I listen to everything at 2x but slowed this down and listened again it is that good. I wondered if Tim and Josh have ever experimented with Float Tanks as a way to achieve undulation?


  9. Hey Tim I just had a chance to listen in on your podcasts and I have some constructive criticism for you…

    One thing I would like to mention is that some of your questions seem to be very forced. I know it can be really difficult to ask questions at the right time in context with the conversation, but I would definitely suggest letting the conversations ‘air’ out a little and let it flow before you jump in and say something or shift the discussion. Let the other person fully complete their thoughts, pause for a second, then take the conversation in another direction if need be. It’s not always necessary to be in control of the conversation.

    Other than that I felt like the podcasts were pretty good. I personally didn’t care for the lack of structure in the first podcast, but that is just my own personal preference and it seemed like you and Kevin are buddy, buddy so it makes sense.


  10. Agree with other comments….. Random show is fun just to watch. I was playing cards on the tablet while just listening, so I vote for video as well. Prefer sober TTTT, but that is a minor preference. Android tablet, so I cant get itunes in my tablet, and wound up with stitcher to listen, which worked fine. Also agree with the abruptness if some of the questions seeming disjointed. Overall, I enjoyed them, but would have preferred a video, like a conversational format more than an interview. Good luck!


  11. Hi Tim! I love your work, it’s always thought provoking and fascinating. However, having no apple devices and being an entirely Android user, I’d love to have access to the podcasts through literally anything else other than iTunes! I see some people have found it using Stitcher, so I’ll try that this evening and have a listen. I’m looking forward to hearing you talk with Kelly Starrett as I also follow his work to which has greatly helped me with my athletics as your work has also done. Given your personality and creativity, I’d love to see you do literally Years of podcasting, all in depth and digging deeply into the subject matter. There’s plenty of podcasting fluff out there, so hearing you get into the nitty-gritty details with people will be fascinating and keep me coming back for more episodes. a note on the frequency of future episode releases – please do more than one per week! If you were on 3-5 times per week that would be really great!


  12. I have tried to leave feedback on iTunes but it doesn’t seem to be working.
    Love your new podcast show!
    Josh is so articulate and insightful, truly brilliant. Thanks for introducing him to me. I have recommended this podcast to three people so far.

    I am looking forward to future shows.



  13. Well done, Tim. Excellent job on both episodes. Episode 2 with Josh was amazing, I really enjoyed it. He has a fascinating perspective. I would love to see more interviews like that (similar structure and conversation).


  14. Listened to episode 1.

    Good podcast. Long but interesting and informal format is different. However could probably be edited to the more useful parts. Also, listening to drunk people is only interesting if you’re drunk as well. One or two glasses to get it going is good but three or four becomes less enjoyable as you slur and have difficulty getting your words or thoughts out.


  15. Tim, this podcast is exactly what I’ve been looking for. It’s interesting, you learn stuff and it’s wayyy better than listening to the top 40 on the radio every day in the car.

    Based on your chat about meditation with Josh I am very keen to start. What books would you recommend to help get started?

    Thanks for all your content – awesome stuff. And I’m a proud owner of all 3 of your 4H books!



  16. Nice job Tim. I look forward to more episodes, with as wide an array of guests as possible (high performers from various fields).

    One suggestion: Try a few episodes where Kevin and you jointly host a podcast with a guest. Would be an interesting dynamic. I think he could balance out your analytical approach with a bit of free flowing right brained approach.


  17. Seems you have to download a program to listen to these (itunes or Stitcher), that’s a shame because I’m going to have to pass. What’s wrong with old fashioned mp3 download?


  18. Hi Tim: Dropped a 5-star Review on iTunes for you.

    Off to a great start!

    USP talk: Your approach to deconstruction is what you do best. While you have managed to borrow some great “canned” questions from other interviewers that have high entertainment value, I’m here for the Tim Ferriss show. Getting high caliber guests is awesome (I’m sure you’ll continue to do so **cough** Neil Strauss **cough**), but I’m more interested in YOUR method of breaking down unfamiliar topics and getting to that Pareto 20% that produces outsized results.

    The really powerful takeaway for your audience, more than just the interesting and entertaining information found in each episode, is learning how you do what you do best. You have the opportunity with this podcast to model your deconstruction process for us in each interview. For that reason, I think more unfamiliar topics and guests you don’t already have a strong relationship with would be riveting, though I’ve loved the guests so far.

    Whether the intent to codify your method comes through explicitly or remains seemingly organic to the listener, if you put some serious thought into delivering the 4-hour/TimTimTalkTalk ;) method through your process you won’t have to create another product, book or course (though I hope you still do), your can teach it right here.


  19. It’s hard not to be motivated and energized by Waitzkin. At first, you may want to write him off as a super-genius, whose skills cannot be replicated by others who feel more “average” than anything. However, the focus should be on HOW he learns and progresses. If you follow that template, you can become a master in those areas that you have a natural knack for. I will never, ever, be good at chess but I can still become a phenom in other areas :)


  20. I hate that I have to download / use stitcher. Why can’t you make this available via the internet @ large so us Android (DogCatcher PocketCast) people can listen?


  21. Hey Tim,

    Night and day between Episode 1 and 2. Josh is obviously a master of the subject, and it was a definite treat to listen to him. I think your line of questioning was more natural and it was obvious that you were talking about your passion.

    The segue into meditation was fascinating and unexpected, and the ideas of addictive habits, intensity of thought, and daily routine were deeply impacting to me.

    Overall, loved this podcast and am going to chew on these ideas for a while myself.



  22. Great podcasts!
    I really like your way of doing interviews.
    Wonderful guests too.

    One tip for the sound quality (Sorry for being a primadonna):

    The “s” sounds are really sharp, hissy and just pop out in a bad way –
    blowing wind on the mic kind of way.

    Can you change the angle of the mic, height of the mic, use a pop filter or just do the old school pencil trick for the mic (tape a pencil on the front of the grille of the mic… you can google this).


    Ville the primadonna


  23. Hi Tim,

    A quick idea. Please, include transcripts. I think there are companies you can easily outsource it to. I have seen auto-generated transcripts either on the Mixergy podcast or Robb Wolf’s Paleo Solution. That would very very cool.

    Your questions are totally awesome! Overall I feel that I would be even better if you challenged your guests much more instead of agreeing with them most of the time. Just something to think about :)


  24. Hola!

    I feel like a stalker…ahem..I’m just putting in practice the teachings in your book “The 4Hour workweek” about contacting someone important and a person that I admire and ask a question…
    Besides reading your books, I listen to your podcasts and I like particularly the 2nd one with Waitzkin and I want to start meditating. Can you recommend a book or audiobook about meditating?

    Nota; Obviamente esto lo va a leer otra persona, eso no importa..después q me den una buena recomendación.. ;)
    Juan C Goveo
    Puerto Rico


  25. Would be great if you could like to mp3s – the link to itunes handicap you. I saw a few requests here already. Thanks Tim!


  26. Can you just say you went to Princeton? By ducking it you attribute more importance to it than it deserves. It is goofy to say you went to a boarding school in New Hampshire rather than saying I went to a boarding school in New Hampshire called St. Paul’s. If you are going to talk about your bio, talk about your bio.


  27. Josh was amazing. Listening to this podcast hooked me to your show. Thanks for seeking out people who have mastered parts of life. I learn more in those 1 hours than I could have hoped. Great job!