i am 17, with ideas and needs alot of help

[mcginley]

Ok i went to start a service/business but also wouldnt mind selling a supplement, but i live in ireland and really went to do it, i read the marketing bit of tims book and still find it hard to understand , i reall would love to know how and the basics help anyone , i want to live life not work 9 to 5

[Bizmaker1]

For a starting muse, I'd take Tim's suggestion and think about doing an "information" type product about some skill set you have. They cost nothing or almost nothing to create. Also he said it's a huge head-ache to sell things people eat.

Your first muse does not have to be the final thing you ever do to make money. I keep a notepad with me and write down product ideas as they come to me but just starting out, information products have almost no overhead costs.

Think about what you like doing and sell it. For me, it was cooking. For you, it might be something as obscure as teaching people how to do calligraphy. I don't know. Think about it. Brainstorm. This is the fun part =)

Cheers
Biz

[winvest]

@mcginley My advice is to read this forum inside and out for a week.The week after that you should launch your muse and get feedback from us by posting about your progress. You will only really learn by doing.

[kamakiri]

Hey kid - You aren't going to like this, but throw away your copy, get out there and live a bit first. Heck at 17 you should still be in high school, never having worked a 9-5 in your life. Heck Nobody works 9-5 any more.

Don't look over your most precious resources. Youth and time. In HS and college people spend a lot of time on their appearance. It is only after you hit 40 that you realize it doesn't take much at all for a 20 year old to look sexy (male or female) and that energy could have been spent better elsewhere.

At 17 you have so many options available to you. Free world travel? Yep, Tim did it, I did it. Spend a year abroad. All expenses paid language immersion, travel, exotic people. That is what LD is all about. Why would you develop a muse, make money, then travel? It is like the fisherman story.

The Rotary Exchange program is for students 16-18, and cost $1500 the year I did it. I brought about $300 of my own money at the time. That is peanuts dude. Your parents will spend less on food alone for the year.

The whole concept is to get the most out of live. Leverage your talents, not try to adapt something you dond't need in the first place. Living at home, saving what you would have paid in rent during college, you can take a 3 month trip over summer break every single year, and have a pretty kick ass Spring Break as well.

That is what LD is all about. Not about selling supplements so you dont have to work a 9-5. Sit back, have a pepsi and watch this. Come back in a few years.

[Bizmaker1]

Man, I really liked that. All I can do is sit here and smile. =)

[winvest]

I say go make a job for yourself, I did. I delivered newspapers, sold lemonade, started a lanscaping business and an internet business by the time I was 19. Get some work experience.

[kamakiri]

I do have a second bit of advice. Do not listen to clueless people who tell you to get a job. Tim said it best, "Living more and working less."

You are in the ideal situation to do that. So you aren't making 4 figures a month. Big deal. Without a mortgage, bills, or responsibilities, you have a huge opportunity. Time is the only resource we are all dealt with in equal quantities. Don't squander it working for pennies.

That isn't stopping you at all from grabbing a back pack, hopping Holyhead Ferry, taking the sleeping bus to Amsterdam and seeing the best museums in the world. I think that bus cost me 16 pounds when I rode it. You could spend a week in one of the coolest cities on the earth for almost nothing. You don't need a muse to pay for a trip that only costs 300 pounds.

Life isn't about working it is about living and experiencing new things.

[REOBULK]

Originally Posted by kamakiri

watch this. Come back in a few years.

Priceless.....

[FreedomTrading]

Originally Posted by kamakiri

I do have a second bit of advice. Do not listen to clueless people who tell you to get a job. Tim said it best, "Living more and working less."

You are in the ideal situation to do that. So you aren't making 4 figures a month. Big deal. Without a mortgage, bills, or responsibilities, you have a huge opportunity. Time is the only resource we are all dealt with in equal quantities. Don't squander it working for pennies.

That isn't stopping you at all from grabbing a back pack, hopping Holyhead Ferry, taking the sleeping bus to Amsterdam and seeing the best museums in the world. I think that bus cost me 16 pounds when I rode it. You could spend a week in one of the coolest cities on the earth for almost nothing. You don't need a muse to pay for a trip that only costs 300 pounds.

Life isn't about working it is about living and experiencing new things.

Here Is my ten cents...
I am a 24 year old Aussie living and working in Denmark.
I Left home at 15 and have worked all over australia and New zealand.
I have just come across tims book myself and wish I could have read it at your age.Get out there and see the world.(but research for your muse while out there.You will get lots of ideas!!)
Go on Just do it :-) find that muse!!

[mcginley]

whats a muse again sorry , also lol thanks for all the comments am in tech learning sports, yo live life in may i have already planned traveling europe start of in london then germany,france etc, then in August i am for Indonseia to build houses for people, i train all the time in the gym what i love so i have done some brain storming what i could do next steps?

yes i have quite a bit of experience from coaching jujitsu to job exppierence with the police, but yes i like the sound of taking 6 months out even a year to travel , thanks for that ,

but want to know more about how to sell myself ( aka not literraly) like what i am good at and how to as someone said it cost nothing but how what to do , i think i need to re read tims book over again.

also thanks for all the advice everyone, i have also worked dishwashing and quite with in a month when i had eny to enjoy my last summer lol

so any more help please also thanks everyone tim and this forum is really great and so is everyone