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Old 05-17-2009, 03:20 AM
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I really thought after reading this book, my life would improve ten fold! Instead I've found myself stuck with no end in site. Everything in this book seems to be so liberating, only creating the muse is much harder than the book lets on!!! HELP
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:44 AM
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Pick something you know about and be part of your market.
Or better yet, pursue the filed or job you want. I have many many regrets spending time on internet marketing instead of building skills in my industry, thinking it was a get rich quick scheme.
This book is slightly different though, I was doing affiliate marketing.
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:07 AM
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Too many follow the book to the letter. I think it works best when people take it as inspiration. But building a business is hard work. No way around that. Those that want to get rich quick spend 3 years buying ebooks that promise just that only to find out that they have to have some follow through.
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Old 05-20-2009, 12:44 AM
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Too many follow the book to the letter.

Quite the opposite I think. Not enough people follow it. They all focus on a muse and ignore the rest of the book, when they should be doing the opposite. By living your current life and focusing on LD, you can gain a huge increase in your quality of life.

Same with muses. Not enough people get a muse up and tested at all. People focus on suppliers and outsourcing something they don't have, when the first thing they should be doing is using google to test the idea for feasibility of the underlying idea. Heck people need to fail more, and they tend to avoid that. Noone ever succeeds on the first attempt. Look at KFC, and the Col's secret recipe. How many restaurants did he go to while speeling in his car before he got the first one to buy it? How many light bulbs did Thoma Edison reject?

The easiest way to success is to increase your rate of failure.
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Old 05-21-2009, 02:40 PM
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Wow, that was a great answer there kamakiri,
I 100% agree with what you said, thats so true
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Old 05-21-2009, 02:42 PM
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I really thought after reading this book, my life would improve ten fold! Instead I've found myself stuck with no end in site. Everything in this book seems to be so liberating, only creating the muse is much harder than the book lets on!!! HELP
The book doesn't change your life... you do. Get off your ass and put into action what you learned.
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Old 05-21-2009, 07:36 PM
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Default Very Honest Post - thank you!

I like the honesty of this post. When you strike out on your own, it can be very scary, very lonely, and then there are your so called "friends" and of course family who like to run any ideas you have into the ground.

The secret thoughts everyone fights with are that of failure, and to just give up. Success is for someone else, not you. Why are you even trying? No one wants your product! Everyone deals with it, and it separates those who continue to move forward from those who go back to the cubicle in hopeless resignation of their dreams.

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Old 05-21-2009, 09:25 PM
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Hey kamakiri,

you surprise me everytime with your replies, you are a true believer! (with good reason I agree)

When someone really sticks to the book it can limit their creativity. Thinking out of the box requires one to abandon rules. It takes 100 ridiculous ideas to have 1 good one. Tim gives some methods for brainstorming but there are many, many more and a lot them are personal. You have to find your own way to come up with ideas!

For me; I think a brainstorm should start with brainstorming methods to generate ideas.... Start with the most interesting, generate ideas and then think again how you can make the brainstorming more effective. Some methods I use:
- copy succesful ideas in the states to europe (so look for ideas in the US)
- copy succesful ideas from one market to another (so look for inspiring succes stories)
- improve the product I have bought recently or for which I am looking (I am a bit of a DIY guy) (this lead to my latest muse concept; garden furniture)
You can make this list as long as you like, and all items on the list lead to methods for idea inspiration..

(BTW, think about also speaking motivating people, reading inspiring magazines, going to inspiring places, reread parts of the 4HWW etc. Get your adrenaline running!)

When you have many ideas you can choose and stay close to the book. Choose an idea wich is easily testable, requires no investment for testing and producing, of which production can be automated, gives good margins etc...)

And then follow through without questioning your descission. Calculate the production price without being to accurate and test as quickly as possible.. (set time limits, don't try to be to precise) A good idea needs no accurate figures to convince! (repeat everyhing if it's not good enough)

And when you eventually found gold there is some work to be done but motivation is easy when succes looms..
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Old 05-22-2009, 02:36 AM
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Default Exploring ideas cheaply

I second the testing or exploring ideas cheaply. I created a profit calculator on my blog to help others do this. It wouldn't represent the 100% picture of what the potential is, but at least give you the formula to play around with keywords in your niche or muse topic.

http://www.cubiclebailout.com/blog/a...alculator.html

The idea behind this is based on 4HWW muse testing as well as information I've found when researching my muse (software product of some sort). I linked to some informal statistics that back up the 1% CTR and conversion rate.
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Old 05-22-2009, 03:22 AM
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The book doesn't change your life... you do. Get off your ass and put into action what you learned.
Agreed, but it's funny, the quote on 4HWW homepage says "...this book will change your life!"

I personally was in the middle of a lifetime trauma when I read the book, and it "changed" me from wondering around aimlessly with no clue what to do next, into someone who was ready to get off my ass and put things int action.

So in that regard, it changed my life.
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