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Old 07-01-2007, 11:35 PM
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Default Cms?

I've seen a few CMS apps brought up here and was wondering what I would need one for if I'm comfortable with a WYSIWYG editor like Dreamweaver. Are they that much easier?
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Old 07-01-2007, 11:53 PM
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Default Where to try out CMSs for free

Whenever you work on a message here - its very similar to CMS systems.

The difference is you usually need to install and set up a CMS - which usually stores content in a DB, as well as the templates and even code to generate your pages.

You can try out various open source software - as an admin and as a user - for free at:

http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php

Again - if you are not technical, many hosting companies will set up one of these for low or no cost. It is also better for the non-technical folks if you try out what you like, review the support forums at the various sites, then ask for bids on eLance or craigslist specifically for that product.
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:01 AM
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so these are things that I install on the web server at my hosting company to make changes with? This is different from the website builders built into my hosting plan right?
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:49 AM
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Correct. Although some hosting plans also have some open source CMS and blog software that you can install automatically as well.
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Old 07-02-2007, 02:15 AM
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You can get up and running fast with CMS over doing it from scratch with Dreamweaver. I did this site for a friend using Joomla:

http://chrisclarkzone.com

My host has Joomla as pre-installed script so all I had to do was push a button. I used a different skin than the default but that is also easy to use. You upload the skin you want to your server then you select it in the admin panel. And it comes with an html editor so you can tweak your posts code if you want.

It depends on the site I'm doing but I still use templates which I edit with Dreamweaver. But for CMS I use Joomla, and Wordpress for blogs. If you're good with coding you might prefer doing it yourself but CMS saves a lot of time.

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Old 07-04-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default so far so good

I'm done some poking around the cmsmadesimple app and it looks like it does have a lot of value. Certainly better than me stumbling through Dreamweaver.

It seems like the templates I've found are more or less just the framework of the page, such as the number of columns, type of menu, etc. Looking at the examples posted of sites people have done with CMS tools in another thread the images seem to be pretty custom. How do those get made or does the CMS assist with that?

I think a basic 3 column template would be best for me. Once I get the CMS installed and integrated with the template, I'd like to try to do it myself so I'm not completely dependent on others to manage it. The images do present an issue to me as I know the basics of CSS and HTML but not a thing about graphical work.

Thanks for the push in this direction Phil and Webzu.
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Old 07-04-2007, 12:34 PM
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I use 1and1 for hosting and if possible I prefer to keep it there because I have numerous sites and it's easier to manage from one place. Do I have to be concerned about them not being compatible with these CMS apps? I don't see any mention of CMS support anywhere in their support docs.
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Old 07-04-2007, 03:16 PM
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I use 1and1 for hosting and if possible I prefer to keep it there because I have numerous sites and it's easier to manage from one place. Do I have to be concerned about them not being compatible with these CMS apps? I don't see any mention of CMS support anywhere in their support docs.
Is this your host: 1an1?

I took a look at their site and they have their own control panel with one-click install of Joomla and Drupal (drupal which is another CMS). You need to log in to your control panel and you can install Joomla from there. If you do it at the root it will be at www.yourdomain.com if you install it to a folder name it whatever and it will www.yourdomain.com/whatever.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:21 PM
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Maybe I accidentally ate shellfish but I've looked in every nook and cranny of my control panel and the 1and1.com site and don't see any mention of it. can you tell me where you're seeing that or post me a link? Thanks.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:28 PM
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Maybe I accidentally ate shellfish but I've looked in every nook and cranny of my control panel and the 1and1.com site and don't see any mention of it. can you tell me where you're seeing that or post me a link? Thanks.
It's here. (scroll down)
See screenshot (you might need to contact their support if you can't find it).
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