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Old 02-05-2011, 11:51 AM
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Don't quite understand your question.

What I'm talking about is in physical meetings with people, if person X doesn't trust person Y, then person Y will pick up on it from subtle body language (even if X tries to hide it).

Y will have a feeling "I don't like X, even though I'm not sure why". And because of that, they won't trust X. That's what I mean about it being self-fulfilling.
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Old 02-24-2011, 06:48 PM
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I've been to a lot of business networking meetings and I'm not good at talknig to people. However, at these events there is always a few people that thrive on it and if you're on your own, chances are one will talk to you. And these chatty people tend to know the rest of the group, or a proportion of them (in my experience!). I used to let them explain what it is they do and then ask them questions about the other attendees ie Is this a regular meeting for you? Do the same people usually come? Do you know anyone else here? What do they do etc etc and then you can get an idea what other people do just by talking to one person. I found it helpful anyway!
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Old 02-25-2011, 02:33 AM
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Nice,

What you are looking for does not exist. The person who is going to be your mentor will not also be the person you outsource tasks to. It does not work that way.

Lets take a few things off the table:

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To understand the following you should know that my clothes look more like Zuckerberg's than those of Obama. I am 28 and male. I experienced these meetings a few times.
This may be okay if your niche is as a programmer or designer, but if your niche is high finance you need to re-think your brand. Dress like your customer. It creates a mutual ground.

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- How do you find those fast that help you?
Finding someone fast is not the goal. Finding someone good is. If my start-up took the first VC money that was offered we would be bankrupt. Be selective. Take your time. Business does not happen overnight.

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- What do you have to offer to make them help you?
Equity? Cash? Services?

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- What is really behind those get-togethers? What are other people's motives?
The same as yours.. to find a good business partner, investor, young entrepreneur, etc.

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Alright, I admit that I do have trust issues. But they come from years of experience, having heard exactly those words and being defrauded shortly after.
Arrogant statement. Protect yourself better. Get something in writing. Someone with "years of experience" would know this.
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:25 PM
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I've been to a lot of business networking meetings and I'm not good at talknig to people. However, at these events there is always a few people that thrive on it and if you're on your own, chances are one will talk to you. And these chatty people tend to know the rest of the group, or a proportion of them (in my experience!). I used to let them explain what it is they do and then ask them questions about the other attendees ie Is this a regular meeting for you? Do the same people usually come? Do you know anyone else here? What do they do etc etc and then you can get an idea what other people do just by talking to one person. I found it helpful anyway!
I am never lost at those business meetings. It is me who talks to people he finds interesting or to people who seem to be of value. I am not hesitant. The problem is that those conversations do not lead to what I want.

I want to have someone I can call who supports me in business decisions. All the time I read about people who meet each other at business school and found a business together. When talking to them I am constantly checked for incompetence. Oh and I am not presuming this, trust me, I know what is going on. So I made a habit out of it keeping the upper hand. If I go down, he will go down, too. He is not going to validate me. I am validating him. And the more arrogance comes to me the more arrogance comes back to him.

Interestingly after some time doing that some men I talk to give in. And become nice and respectful, something most people never experience with those men.
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:35 PM
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What you are looking for does not exist.
You don't understand what I am looking for. See above.

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The person who is going to be your mentor will not also be the person you outsource tasks to.
I disagree.

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This may be okay if your niche is as a programmer or designer, but if your niche is high finance you need to re-think your brand. Dress like your customer. It creates a mutual ground.
I am not aware that all facebook users wear sandals.

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Finding someone fast is not the goal. Finding someone good is. If my start-up took the first VC money that was offered we would be bankrupt. Be selective. Take your time. Business does not happen overnight.
You don't seem to have gotten into the funding business quite deeply, have you?

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The same as yours.. to find a good business partner, investor, young entrepreneur, etc.
Thinking about it, their goals are more than anything whether they like each other. As a next step they screen for the same values.

I am disappointed that noone brought that up so far.

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Arrogant statement. Protect yourself better.
You are so protected even if a bomb is falling on your body, you will survive without a scratch. Tell me your secret, how, just how do you survive those bomb attacks?

Geez...

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