Muse idea generation.... HELP!!!

[jeffbrown9]

OK 4HWW gang, I (and perhaps several others here) NEED YOUR HELP!!!

I'm sad to say this but I'm striking out with generating new muse ideas. Its killing me to, because I'm a resonably creative person, have a technical background and an MBA from the #1 Entrepreneurship school in the US (Babson). So why am I having such a hard time?

Any suggestions? I've followed all of Tim's suggestions in the book (i.e. look at your background or what you like to do, find needs of that market, etc.) and I'm just not coming up with anything worthwhile.

Any suggestions you have are REALLY appreciated. Even examples of successful muses (i.e. PleatyOfFish.com, etc.) would be motiviational at this point. Whatever you can offer would be great!

Losing Hope

[dsharpe]

....of target markets that you belong to and are familiar with?

If so, and you don't mind sharing it, I'd be happy to post some suggestions.

Dave

[jeffbrown9]

Awesome Dave, thanks... if anyone else has some devine intervention strike them with a good idea in these niches, PLEASE let me know....

I'd like to focus on product ideas so that they lend themselves to an automated architecture...

target markets I could be considered part of:
- Microbiologist (in other words a biological scientist)
- MBA student
- golfer (this market is quite over done though)
- car enthusiast
- hobbyist videographer (video editor, short video ad maker, etc.)

Thanks again.

[jeffbrown9]

- fitness enthusiast (work out a lot)
- mountain biker
- smart phone user
- I wear glasses
- I'm big on goal setting, etc.

[dsharpe]

Just off the top of my head...

To start with, your list is nowhere near complete. Are you married? Single? Divorced? A Parent? Own a Volvo? Drink Drambui? etc.

For example, just a few of the market niches I'm a part of:
Happily married (products: romantic gifts, relationship books, etc)
Parent (children's books, outdoors toys/gear, info on raising an "only child," life insurance, info on how to work at home when you have kids, etc)
Entrepreneur (personal development, productivity tools, information, etc)
Webmaster (marketing info, software tools)
..and so on.

The golf market is not anywhere near overdone--it's a huge market with new products showing up every day. There's always room for one more. People who have a passion for an activity will usually purchase products that overlap in purpose. But, you definitely need to think in terms of long-tail niches. For example, somewhere out there on the net is a book that I wrote a chapter for--the chapter was on cleaning golf equipment. That chapter generated several hundred subscribers to my ezine in a month or two, and would have continued to grow if I had kept the project going.

Car enthusiast--any specialty? Are you a dabbler, or really into 1964 Mustangs? Maybe door handles for 1964 Mustangs? Again, think long-tail.

Hobbyist videographer--this one is probably your gold mine. I'm not set up as an affiliate for either of these resources, so I'll go ahead and post their links:

http://www.sellbooksandvideos.com Don't let the simplicity of this concept fool you--making money with video does NOT have to be complicated. Here's Terrance's concept in a nutshell, applied to your interests: go to a car show, videotape the show, sell the video. Don't laugh--he's making $8k/mo doing just that!

The other is http://www.bmyers.com Bill is a product development guru and has a LOT of excellent resources for creating video info products. He's been around for a long time and practices what he preaches.

Once the video is shot and edited, automation is easy--have a fulfillment house handle the duplication and shipping. I believe that bmyers.com has a list of fulfillment houses who specialize in video.

Fill your list out a bit more, and it will be easier to add more suggestions.

Dave

[jeffbrown9]

Wow Dave - you're the real deal! I really like your video suggestions - I'll start looking into it. If you have any more vidoe ideas that would also be appreciated (I really the video niche). I would however like to take you up on your offer of more suggestions based on other markets I'm a part of:

- married, happily most of the time ;)
- 2 kids, going on 3 in April - I adore my girls
- I drive a pickup truck, also own a Honda S2000 sportscar, but looking at a crossover (read family van) for my next vehicle
- I like to teach - I was an undergraduate lab teacher and I'm a leadership Coach to undergrad business students
- MBA in entrepreneurship (I know lots of "how", just not much "in what?" right now)
- I've worked in the medical device world for 10+ years
- I used to be #1 in sales for a software firm
- I like to play tennis
- I'm pretty good at researching things (my friends always ask me to look into new products for them)
- I REALLY like new cars (not really old cars). I'm a big fan of foreign cars. I'm always looking into the latest features, performance numbers, etc. I've dabbled with the idea of owning my own car dealership however new car dealerships are virtually impossible to get, and the used car business has very negative connotations.
- I enjoy watching movies with the family (and producting movies of the family)
- I own a bunch of watches and like the watch niche but I'm not a collector
- I've owned several swimming pools
- I enjoy and used to compete in billiards competitions
- I'm a gadget guy - I love the latest high tech gadgets
- I enjoy traveling (Europe, far east, all over the US, caribbean, etc.)
- I love the outdoors, hiking, picnics, etc.

[dsharpe]

Here are some ideas--no guarantee on viability (you'll want to do some research), I'm just showing you that you have more options/potential than you might realize.

I'm going to put my ideas in blue if I can get the format tags to work properly.:cool:

Several of these ideas combine ebooks and DVD, but if you create a kit that combines video, audio, and print, you can double or triple your price.

I would however like to take you up on your offer of more suggestions based on other markets I'm a part of:

- married, happily most of the time ;)
ebook: How to be happily married (most of the time).
Drop ship high-end gifts for the times you screwed up.

- 2 kids, going on 3 in April - I adore my girls
Drop ship kids toys.
Ebook: How to be a great Dad: 101 activities you can do with your children. Video: Parenting skills for new fathers.

- I drive a pickup truck, also own a Honda S2000 sportscar, but looking at a crossover (read family van) for my next vehicle
Video: Your First Minivan: a Survival Guide for Men (seen the Peyton Manning pep talk about the minivan? Play off of that)
Video: 20 Low-cost Things You Can Do To Pimp Your Honda S2000.

- I like to teach - I was an undergraduate lab teacher and I'm a leadership Coach to undergrad business students
Video: What they won't teach you in business school: How to develop leadership skills on your own.
Membership site: Become a Leader.
ebook: Developing Leaders: a guide to coaching new leaders.

- MBA in entrepreneurship (I know lots of "how", just not much "in what?" right now)
I'm drawing a blank here.

- I've worked in the medical device world for 10+ years
Videos: instructional videos--ie, How to Get The Best Performance From Your Spingbang Farkle Transmogrifier.

If you have some special or unique achievement in this field, other people will pay to learn how to do the same thing. If it's a sales process, license it to other salesmen for a yearly fee.

- I used to be #1 in sales for a software firm
See above. Develop a manual with instructional DVDs and CDs that teach your sales process. License it to other software companies. As long as they use it, they pay a royalty/licensing fee.

Membership site: sales training/coaching.

- I like to play tennis
I'm not a tennis player, so I'll resort to the "expert product" Ebook/DVD: 47 Secrets of the Pros. Get several pros/instructors to give you their best tips/secrets in exchange for promotion of their services.

- I'm pretty good at researching things (my friends always ask me to look into new products for them)
Ditto here. I have yet to figure out how to monetize it effectively.:D

- I REALLY like new cars (not really old cars). I'm a big fan of foreign cars. I'm always looking into the latest features, performance numbers, etc. I've dabbled with the idea of owning my own car dealership however new car dealerships are virtually impossible to get, and the used car business has very negative connotations.
Car "fan blog." Although a blog tends to not always fit into the 4HWW parameters, there are some forms of blogging that don't require daily updates. Find photos of your kind of car--make sure that they have a Creative Commons license, and post them on your blog, along with your thoughts. Sell affiliate products.

Lead generation service for performance car dealers.

- I enjoy watching movies with the family (and producting movies of the family)
DVD: How to produce a home movie you can be proud of.
DVD: Creative lighting for home videographers. ETC.

- I own a bunch of watches and like the watch niche but I'm not a collector
Portal site: Resources for watch hobbyists.

- I've owned several swimming pools
Ebook, DVD: How to take care of your pool.
DVD/Ebook: How to avoid getting gypped by your pool service company.
DVD: 14 methods for killing algae in your pool.
DVD: install your own solar pool heating system.

- I enjoy and used to compete in billiards competitions
DVD: How to Win billiards competitions.
DVD: The Insider's Guide to Watching Billiards Competitions.
DVD: fitness routine for Billiards players.

- I'm a gadget guy - I love the latest high tech gadgets
Gadget Blog. See Car Blog above. Yes, gizmodo is already out there, but people like to see a variety of opinions.

Drop ship the latest high-tech gadgets from your blog.

- I enjoy traveling (Europe, far east, all over the US, caribbean, etc.)
Write a book called The 4-Hour Work Week!:D

The medical tourism field is expanding--specialize in a country or a medical procedure, write an ebook, create a video, etc about going to another country for medical care, and JV with a travel agency to create travel packages.

DVD: see Terrance's material from http://www.sellbooksandvideos.com --he's done some "vacation videos" in Jamaica that were quite successful.

- I love the outdoors, hiking, picnics, etc.
Video: Getting the most from your outdoors videography.

Ebook/DVD: Creating the Perfect Picnic.

DVD: 27 Hikes you can take in [your local area].

I'm going to include the items from your other post


- fitness enthusiast (work out a lot)
Membership site: Get Fit with Me!

- mountain biker
DVD: Mt. bike repair/adjustments you can make at home.
DVD: My Favorite Mt. Bike Trails.
DVD: Choosing your first mt. bike.

- smart phone user
DVD: The definitive guide to using the XYZ smart phone--without throwing it against the wall!


On a lot of these, you're going to say something along the lines of "But I don't know enough about Spingbang Farkle Transmogrifiers to make a video about it! (and the voice in your head will probably be a bit whiny!)

The majority of the buyers for most niches is made up of beginners and intermediate level knowledge/experience. If you know 5% more than they do, you're an expert. Target that segment of the market, and you don't have to worry about it.

As you can see, you have more options than you thought!

Good luck sleeping tonight!
Dave

[micah7]

One thing that has helped me when i drew a blank, and thanks Dave, by the way... you mentioned some things that I forgot to add to my list as well. Try to think of products for those around you, say your wife's belongs to a family of hunters, then observe there conversations, tools, habits... pick there brains on what can improved or what product they wish someone would invent.

My wife i not a business brain by all means, very emotional driven but came up a great product that we are looking into and from that one product while meeting with a few patent attorneys today I came up with three quality products that will add value to the niche market.

Watch the Big Idea, grab some ideas from there... apparel seems to be hot again, especially baby and maternity apparel.

hope this helps...

[kamakiri]

You might not want to have your own muse. In order to succeed, you really need to have a passion and the drive to make your business successful to get out of the starting gate. You mentioned that friends often showed you their new products, that might be the way to go.

In general people who think up new stuff are not the ones successful in selling them. You seem to be a good seller, and have the educational background, so why not just make an offer. You set up the sales channel, they get a percentage of every sale. Unless it is the new Rubik's cube, the chances are high that it will not get to the point where you actually need a bricks and mortar company running things.

Look at Tim for example. He might have had the idea for Brain Quicken, but he outsources everything. He probably pays a bit more to the drug manufacturer who is doing the consignment work, but he is out to optimize his time, not his profits. No reason at all you can't outsource your muse idea creation.

[kamakiri]

Here is another resource you might be interested in:

The Muse Blue Print (http://www.themuseblueprint.com/z/)

It is a site that does exactly what I mentioned. It is focused on outsourcing your muse creation.

[Sven]

Could it be you say "No, that isn't it because..." to early?

If you think this the next time, make sure to follow that with: "If this were not a problem then I would..." Do this EVERY time you find yourself saying no to an idea.

Make the line of thought real by taking it out of your head in one way or another. You can use drawings, a scrapbook, powerpoint or my new favorite FreeMind (http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page)
the free mindmapping tool.

A lot of people stop their creation by saying NO to themselves. Let your mind finnish the line of thought and only judge the idea at the very end!
Sven

[Joxx]

Wow this is such a fantastic thread really stretched my idea of what I can do with a muse. :)

[squeegee]

Wow lots of interesting ideas.

Jeff I got this idea when I read your post.

golfer (this market is quite over done though)
+
I'm big on goal setting, etc.
+
hobbyist videographer (video editor, short video ad maker, etc.)

=

teach people how to use their camcorder to videotape their golf swing in order to see where they are making mistakes and to improve it?

EDIT
also I find that I get great ideas by writing on paper by hand, even though I prefer typing. just try it.

[jeremyt]

I am new to this message board. I have read through this whole thread and I have been very interested about how creative everyone seems to be. I feel I am pretty creative myself and have come up with some ideas I think could be great. From reading the 4 Hour Work Week I concluded that the first step I needed to do was write out who I am or what kinds of groups I am included in. I wrote down a bunch and I have listed them below. If anyone reads them and has any creative suggestions I would appreciate any feedback. Hopefully I could help you out in the future as well

Male College Student
Amateur Photo Enthusiast
Diesel Sedan Driver (Volkswagen TDI)
Eat almost purely Organic Food
Health Fanatic
Exercise/Lift Weights
Cat Owner
Greyhound (the dog, not the bus line) Lover
Blackberry World Edition User (and big fan)
Mac Laptop User (once you go mac you never go back, haha)
Enjoy maintaining a nice overall appearance (clothes, hair, body, etc)
Snowboarder

[reescup4]

[QUOTE=dsharpe;6019]Just off the top of my head...

To start with, your list is nowhere near complete. Are you married? Single? Divorced? A Parent? Own a Volvo? Drink Drambui? etc.

For example, just a few of the market niches I'm a part of:
Happily married (products: romantic gifts, relationship books, etc)
Parent (children's books, outdoors toys/gear, info on raising an "only child," life insurance, info on how to work at home when you have kids, etc)

Hi, Do you have any advice you can share on writing children's books? The best way to start off? Who to contact? Anything you can think of that will help would be great. Thank you so much!!! reescup4@yahoo.com ;)

[storm33229]

http://stormkiernan.wordpress.com

look for the article on muse creation, it should help

[Daydreamer]

Hobbyist videographer--this one is probably your gold mine. I'm not set up as an affiliate for either of these resources, so I'll go ahead and post their links:

http://www.sellbooksandvideos.com Don't let the simplicity of this concept fool you--making money with video does NOT have to be complicated. Here's Terrance's concept in a nutshell, applied to your interests: go to a car show, videotape the show, sell the video. Don't laugh--he's making $8k/mo doing just that!

The other is http://www.bmyers.com Bill is a product development guru and has a LOT of excellent resources for creating video info products. He's been around for a long time and practices what he preaches.

Once the video is shot and edited, automation is easy--have a fulfillment house handle the duplication and shipping. I believe that bmyers.com has a list of fulfillment houses who specialize in video.

Fill your list out a bit more, and it will be easier to add more suggestions.

Dave
Dave you are amazing with how these ideas pop into your head!

I was just wonering if you knew Terrance personally or if you stumbled across his site and cold-purchased his product? If you bought the product do you personally feel you learned something from it and has this information benefited you?

I don't mind spending money if I'm going to actually walk away with something but I'd hate to put money out on something that is just a bunch of "fluff and stuff" if you know what I mean.

Thanks for your insights and your ideas!!

I'm sure you're very busy but I thought it was so cool how you just listed those things off for the OP that I thought I'd throw out a list of my target markets that I belong to and are familiar with just to see if anything came to you for me: :)
Walt Disney World!! I love the Walt Disney World Resort and we own DVC (Disney's version of the timeshare) and last year we went 3 times in less than 6 months. --Sadly, not this year as we're broke as jokes with having just bought a new home. :(

Happily married for 11 years

No kidlets

Dog and cat owner

Darling Husband loves cigars and is a truck driver. Works on his on rigs although he's never had formal training.

I can spend hours reading and reviewing and reseraching different topics on the internet.

Vegetarian with strong convicitons to be a vegan. . . Would love to go all the way to being a Raw Foodist.

I drink various kinds of Green Smoothies every morning for breakfast and am always looking for new combinations of greens and fruits or greens and spices.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head at the moment.

[parentwarrior]

I started parentwarrior.com in March. I send out 400-500 news releases per day which has rippled out to places I couldn't even dream of. The business is exploding and has found the huge market of parents who want to take back control of their families. It is going great with the sale of the parentwarrior Starter Kits and life coaching. I'm a believer in the 4 hour workweek and the concept of living fully and making the most of each day. I want parents to be able to do the same so families can thrive.

[reescup4]

I once read that whatever you would do for free is exactly what you should be doing. reescup4@yahoo.com ;)

[Daydreamer]

I once read that whatever you would do for free is exactly what you should be doing. reescup4@yahoo.com ;)See, now that's a tough one for me because what I would be doing for free (and what I do all the time) is read message boards and surf and research on the internet but I don't know of a way to make money off of that. :confused:

[jpstephens]

I too am all out of Muse Ideas....I have been actively looking for about a year now. I tried one muse, it was a yahoo store selling music equipment...it went terribly.

I now am trying to regroup and I am determined to make the money back that I lost with my first stab at it.

Below is a brain dump of some of the markets that I belong to, I can't think of much that I could use. I am looking for a product that I could sell between 50-100 bux.

Markets I belong to:
I am a Web Design Firm Project Manager
I've been in a relationship for 8 years to the same woman
I am a mac enthusiast
I love technology
I drive an Acura TL
I am a big supporter of Barack Obama
I'm a vegetarian
I'm trying to save for a house downpayment
I am 24
I used to broker scrap foam...Bought large truckloads from mattress companies and sold the scrap foam to bonders

Any ideas? I am desperate and me and my gf have a dreamline of getting engaged and buying a house within the next year, i need at the very least an extra 1k a month to make this happen.

[emptyo]

This is a great thread. Really got my wheels turning.

Thanks.

[blackhatontherocks]

I too am all out of Muse Ideas....I have been actively looking for about a year now. I tried one muse, it was a yahoo store selling music equipment...it went terribly.

I now am trying to regroup and I am determined to make the money back that I lost with my first stab at it.

Below is a brain dump of some of the markets that I belong to, I can't think of much that I could use. I am looking for a product that I could sell between 50-100 bux.

Markets I belong to:
I am a Web Design Firm Project Manager
I've been in a relationship for 8 years to the same woman
I am a mac enthusiast
I love technology
I drive an Acura TL
I am a big supporter of Barack Obama
I'm a vegetarian
I'm trying to save for a house downpayment
I am 24
I used to broker scrap foam...Bought large truckloads from mattress companies and sold the scrap foam to bonders

Any ideas? I am desperate and me and my gf have a dreamline of getting engaged and buying a house within the next year, i need at the very least an extra 1k a month to make this happen.

1. STOP being desperate. Being Desperate about anything unless in begging is the easiest way (after maybe continuosly worrying about it) to make something NOT happen. Just stop. Have some trust. You REALLY are messing up everything you touch right from the begining with this attitude. Seriously man, aside buying the winning lotto ticket, nothing will work out this way - you could accidently stumble upon a giant pot of gold like, let's say, the idea for "facebook" 3 years ago, and you'd discard it for about thirty reasons.

2. Get to the IDEAS behind the "Markets you belong to".
WHY Are you a mac enthusiast, WHAT are your reasons for being a vegeterian, HOW did you end up being a web design project lead, what do you like about it and what sucks about it, WHAT are the obstalces your facing with saving for down payment, etc. pp.

I won't go into much more detail here because you'll be more thrilled about the actual ideas if they pop up in your own mind, but man, this is some great stuff to work with. Half of what you listed has between one and a couple dozens of niches directly or indirectly associated to it.

It's like you've put together this list and then decided to get frustrated and like that's basically as far as you will go - like you deliberately made the decision to not go any further and expected this list to tell you what the niches behind those things are.

You have a brain, and judging from your job and foam scraping background, a rather creative one indeed. So the only things you could possibly lack are a) effort or b) self esteem& confidence.

Now get to that list and figure out niches behind those words. DON'T post again and DON'T do anything else regarding this topic until you managed to get at least 8-12 seperate niche markets out of this. As I get that many out of ONE of your list items alone (possibly even out of 3 of them), you should have no problem ending up with 12 in total if you put your mind to it. And be clear about me not saying "working, valuable niches you're easily able to get into", I just said get some niches.

Consider this your wake up call. You won't get many if you keep up that attitude, that's for sure.

Wait, didn't I tell you something similar on a muse Idea thread of yours? Yeah, I just checked it, I did, and judging from your post here, you immediatly abandoned the idea you had back then right away, most likely based on your own (self?) doubts fueld by my criticism.

Why? Why would you do that?

a) I'm not god, thus not alknowing b) making things work inspite of harsh surroundings is a basic principle of entrepreneurship, even though making a great choice to avoid that problem is an even better one.
c) Your a web developer. You think about writing a book about web developing. Which incidently is somehting catered to yourself or people already profficient at the things you are profficient in, or just slightly below your level, and which already had lots of literature specifically catered on the topic. I.E., this was not something for the people you're already working for - your customers and clients.

Which means, simply refocus on an idea that's more easily applicable to your market. Out of the top of my head:
Make a school for great web design (there are no written standards so you could simply create some if your statement sound even remotely credible). Make tools for easier web design. Make videos about important steps in web design, make them free, and use them to sell a course to a list you've captured from the people who came in via your videos on youtube.

Look, it took me 5 minutes. I'M NOT SHOWING OFF, you're FORCEING yourself to believe that you CAN'T come up with something, so your mind complies, and doesn't come up with something.

The only thing you really need to change is your attitude. Then go over this things again, talk them through with a friend, and look if you two can figure out something great.

You can NEVER loose in your own mind. You simply cannot. Remember that before your next attempt to go out and defeat yourself.

EDIT: I'm fully aware of giving you two entirely different sets of adivce here, compared to the other thread. Which isn't so much to go out and advertise that I'm bordeline-scizophrenic (which I am, obviously) but rather to show you that you're OPTIONS isn't what is limited here - it's your believes that keep you locked up in the birdcage. Change them and you'll find a pile of possibilities where you right now only look at even more worry.

Dreamlines are there to dream, not to put you under negative stress or achievement pressure. You put them up, you act upon them, you feel hyped upon them, you work your ass of to get them into realite - but all the time, be able to accept any possible outcome out of any possible situation instead of NEEDING something to be in a certain way (which is the very definition of despearation at it's core).

[Caesar_X]

I too am all out of Muse Ideas....I have been actively looking for about a year now. I tried one muse, it was a yahoo store selling music equipment...it went terribly.
From your comment, it sounds like all you learned from your music equipment experiment is that is failed. You sound like someone who lost $500 played craps and is trying to double up to get your money back.

Step back for a moment and analyze just WHY that venture failed in your opinion. Was the music idea bad? The implementation didn't work? You didn't reach your customer base? Couldn't source the right equipment? Didn't have enough money to invest to really get it started? Not enough time? Gave up on it too easily?

Almost no business people success on the first attempt. So take what you have learned from the first venture and use that to your advantage in going out again to try something new.

And lose the desperation. It's not helping you at all. Think positive energy!

[Dubserve]

Hi There

I was just thinking...Is this ebay and "how to" that easy as Terrance says at http://www.sellbooksandvideos.com/

Sorry if i seem to be worried, but does anyone know if this is actually the truth and that he actually has done all the things he is saying he has ?

If so, a lot of respect!

Thanks n Cheers
Kjeldgaard

[blackhatontherocks]

It's your standard old "how to make information products" stuff. If he's selling multiple products and only making 8k a month, I wouldn't trust this guy with 1 dollar because he obviously has no Idea about market research.

Anyway, you can "learn" how to create information products by copying the structure of any other good information product, it's really that simple, and if you want to learn market research, hit the 30daychallenge.com website and take their material to heart.

I recommend getting professional training in copywriting, sem and seo, in order of importance, anything else is achieved along the way or can be easily outsourced. Didn't bother to check if this guy has a refund policiy, if so, you might try him out ... but be aware of the fact that reading this probably won't tell you anything you couldn't have figured out yourself through actually getting started on a project.

[Dubserve]

Ahh i see...

He actually has a money back guarantee:
"Just in case you have any doubts on this course, please understand I offer a money back guarantee. If you are not satisfied with the course, just ask for a full refund."

The thing is that i am quite curious about the way that he get's the costumers to buy hiss stuff on ebay, so i bought it! In your opinion what should this course do to "be worth the money" ?

Another thing i didnt understand was the one you wrote with "getting professional training in copywriting, sem and seo"

I Am still quite new :-) I has always been good in writing, taking photos/video and teaching has a lot of hobbies so for me, the how to or information product could be a good way to start out.... ?

Thanks for your reply, i really appreciate!
Kjeldgaard

[overseasplease]

JP,

If you're not creative enough to come up with a "muse", just pick up affiliate marketing as a hobby.

It's not impossible, but it's never as easy as most people would like you to believe.

I just saw this WSO -> "Success Handed To You (http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-special-offers-forum/12740-success-handed-you-best-offer-you-have-ever-seen.html)" which will supposedly give you a few niches with advertising info for each one every month...different ones every month. I'll pass, but it seems you're a bit desperate.

Also, I'll pay for your sign up fee for Wealthy Affiliate if you're brand new to internet marketing. I won't leave a link...just google it if you've never heard of it. If you're not brand new then there's no reason to sign up for it. Most of the techniques are pretty basic. I just stay involved because a lot of people want to sign up for it. PM me if you'd like your first month free.

Other than that...I doubt someone from the forum would just give their "muse" idea to you.

Have you tried sending out a resume for a job that was above your recent pay level? Have you tried looking into overseas contract work? Not everybody's going to be able to create the next Trivial Pursuit (met the nephew of one of the owners in Thailand...kid's never done anything in his life except get money from his uncle's fortune). Just try to move your way up for the time being until you come up with something worthwhile.

[Dubserve]

Overseasplease, i have checked out the Wealthy Affiliate that you are mentioning and it seems quite professional! Do you know about the 30 day challenge as well ? Just curious cause the 30day is for free, but maybe not as good as the one you are mentioning....

Im brand new my self into internet marketing, and i just started to get a few muse ideas, basic it's information and how to muse's which im planning to sell on ebay, ejunkie etc... And maybe on my own homepage as well...Is it better to sell from your own page than ebay, ejunkie and so on.. ?

And isn't it right that the information and how to is the most profit giving way to do online business ? (except that if you have some kind of health product or something like that :-) )

So let's say i have a couple of muse's and im new into internet marketing, would it help me to sign up with either Wealthy Affiliate or 30 day challenge or something similar for getting the basics or is there another way around ?

Thank You
Kjeldgaard

[arobryn]

Oh my gawd! This is horrible!

I came here thinking it'd help me solidify my ideas by seeing what others were doing and now I have MORE ideas!!

This is my first go and I'm not desperate so I'm taking it easy step by step, but I gotta thank you all for the community - it's pretty cool being able to hear from folks who are making it work and also get the reality check that some people are struggling.

And then to get the reminder that if you're struggling you may want to look for areas to improve.

Thanks! I'll keep an eye out for "New Rich" next year on my northern European cruise!

~Arobryn

[overseasplease]

Overseasplease, i have checked out the Wealthy Affiliate that you are mentioning and it seems quite professional! Do you know about the 30 day challenge as well ? Just curious cause the 30day is for free, but maybe not as good as the one you are mentioning....

The WA site is extremely professional. It's been around awhile and has a lot of money put into it. Yes, I've seen the 30DC and to be honest, you could probably do it instead of the WA and definitely make money if you follow it to a T.


Im brand new my self into internet marketing, and i just started to get a few muse ideas, basic it's information and how to muse's which im planning to sell on ebay, ejunkie etc... And maybe on my own homepage as well...Is it better to sell from your own page than ebay, ejunkie and so on.. ?

How about sell from all 3?


So let's say i have a couple of muse's and im new into internet marketing, would it help me to sign up with either Wealthy Affiliate or 30 day challenge or something similar for getting the basics or is there another way around ?

Yes, either would help you. Most of the info is on the web though. There's no "ninja secrets" in the WA community. It mainly focuses on either PPC campaigns, or article campaigns. PM me and I'll give you the gist of what they offer for free. Then you can decide if you're still interested.

Thank You
Kjeldgaard


Arobryn...I know exactly what you mean. My biggest problem has always been staying focused on one thing at a time

[jackson]

How about looking through trade magazines, ordering back issues and seeing which ads are repeated?