PDA

View Full Version : Brand new, clean slate, guidance appreciated


mglkensington
10-05-2007, 02:57 AM
Hi, I’m brand new to this site, and I’m only half way through the 4HWW. But I have some questions that are distracting me as I read, because I feel a little unsure about how to apply some of the principles in the book to my own life, since I don’t really fit the examples. I am a 25 year-old woman and I have a bachelor’s degree in Field Biology. I did some graduate work, but I’ve had a major change of heart, I switched career directions, and now I’m trying to fulfill one of my passions as a writer. I am not in science anymore in a career-oriented way; I love the outdoors and spend a great deal of time studying the natural world though. However, this is not my concern. I am more than happy with my choices and my educational background. I know what my strengths are and I have very clear dreams of how I want my life to be.

So I'm completely starting over. I'm unemployed because I just recently got out of school, and I am in a rather critical situation with debt from student loans and living expenses. So, immediate income is vital. That's the downside. But the upside is, I have this kind of blank-slate. I’m dreamlining, and working through the book, but none of the examples seem to fit an unemployed and in-debt inexperienced person. Currently, I’m with a temp agency, but I could do temp-to-permanent, or apply for a higher-profile, more involved job outside of the temp agency. My idea with the temp work was that it was less involved, therefore affording me an opportunity to focus on starting a new business on the side. I have no idea what that business will bet yet and I have no business training whatsoever, and I have never even done bookkeeping before. But I’m not worried about finding inspiration or motivation. I just want to know what the best next move would be for me.

So, am I in a good position, because I’m already unemployed, and therefore never have to worry about extricating myself from a job in the first place, or, in order to fit the immediate need for income, should I take a job somewhere, anywhere, and if so, should it be any kind of job, or something really challenging? But I can also see how accepting an interim job that is unfocused might be a real step in the wrong direction for a number of reasons, one being that I would not want to lose momentum. But it would also be easy to leave such a position as soon as things picked up. If a large part of the message in the 4HWW is to free myself from such a job, do I really want to apply in the first place? That being said, I also realize that another emphasis in the book is working remotely, and not only just owning your own business, so I do understand that.

Am I at a good point to just try to tough it out, and do violin gigs (I play violin) to pay the bills and work on developing a business, or would it be better to just take a position somewhere and develop my 4HWW on the side? I plan on getting married within the next 2 years as well, so I want to solidify my business as soon as possible.

I have so much in my background to draw from, as it involves everything from music to science. I know I want to find a way to use them- in a way that is fulfilling and also provides freedom. I know and have known for a long time, that a cubicle 9-5 existence would not serve me, or others. I also have rheumatoid arthritis which is a limiting factor for how much stress I should allow in my life. I want to be in a place in life where I can give to others, play my violin, write, and my ultimate dream- own land and work with horses.

I am not afraid to work, and I am also willing to work that “cubicle” job for a time, and do what is necessary to accomplish my goals. I just don't want to be sucked in. I want to apply the principles in the 4HWW book, and I just want to make the best use of my time. I need some advice, because I’m about to make a move with accepting or declining a particular temp-to-hire receptionist job.

I’m willing to do my homework and develop a new career. I also have no idea about what kind of a business I should have (I'm enjoying this process in the book), but I know I can communicate, write, and interface with people, and I know as I continue to research and network I will know how to make it happen. So, there’s my situation. Thank you again so very much for your time. Any help is greatly appreciated. Since I'm new to the site, I will also be researching on here a lot too, and hopefully pick up a lot of good suggestions from other posters. Thanks again!

wildsoul
10-05-2007, 04:26 AM
Congratulations on taking the big step!

In my coaching practice, I've met quite a few people with your "should I take a job" dillema. Most of the times, it's from people who are already in startup or perhaps a slow phase of income. I started framing jobs in a grading context of A, B, C, etc. A lot of people find it useful, so I posted it on my blog awhile back.

Hope you don't mind me saving a little typing effort. I'll just paste the link here instead, in case you want to read it.
http://www.inspirationalbusiness.com/2006/09/should_you_get_.html

mglkensington
10-05-2007, 04:35 AM
Thank you Wildsoul, I really appreicate that! It's refreshing to get a thoughtful response. I will definitely check it out. all the best.

Bostonjohn
10-05-2007, 08:35 AM
I think following the principles of the four hour work week is to focus on something you love to do. Tim's thing was sports and nutrition. So he got into the supplement business. I am into alternative healing which includes hypnosis. I am currently developing my muse. You would be surprised at how little it takes to start something up. I will be starting test marketing by the end of the month and I am into it for about $300.00.
It sounds like you have a very diverse background and it should be easy to come up with your muse. I would temp work to pay the bills, but keep working on developing a muse.

outofbandii
10-05-2007, 11:45 AM
I'm of the opinion that it's important to have both

1) freedom from over commitment to a job
2) short term financial security.

I know these are conflicting. I think all you need for (2) is enough cash to eat and sleep for 2-3 months while investing in your business.

I also agree with wildsoul that what we all need is a nice, satisfying B-Job.

(read the link before you castigate me;))

MariaG
10-05-2007, 04:17 PM
First of all, I want to thank wildsoul for sharing that post. It helped me realize that I'm in a great B (maybe even an A-) job right now!

However, I think I disagree a bit with the consensus that you need a job. I'm a musician myself and I know that a decent gig can reap great hourly rates. I've made $100 in an hour or two - much more than I make in my "day" job.

mglkensington, if you think you can get enough well-paying violin work to pay your bills and keep you afloat financially, that might be the way to go for now. Try to get well-paying gigs like corporate receptions and weddings. These kind of things usually require a pretty standard repetoire, so you won't have to invest a lot of time in rehearsing. You'll also have mostly evening commitments, so it will give you plenty of quality time to work on your muse.

final_id
10-05-2007, 04:28 PM
Funny, every single job I've ever held is an "F" job ... :D

Thanks for those thoughts on that blog.

luckyshot
10-09-2007, 02:39 AM
Sorry, no advice here. I'm in a similar situation. I found it comforting to know that there's someone out there in a similar situation, and I thought you might too. Plus, I'm brand new to the discussion boards and need to introduce myself anyway, so here it goes!

I'm 22 and just out of college; I have a Bachelors in Applied Nutrition. I just recently discovered that the career I've been planning for (law enforcement) is not for me, and that my Plan B (nutrition) requires two more years of school, making it a no-go. This all came to light two weeks ago when I up and quit my job in the law enforcement field.... and that was before reading this book!!

The last two weeks I've been in a state of panic, frequently interrupted by spurts of depression, largely due to the fact that I just irreversibly screwed up my life. I have massive amounts of student loan debt (and I do mean MASSIVE) that are about to enter into repayment within the next 45 days. Even after consolidating my monthly student loan bill will be, at best, $400. I will quite literally be writing student loan checks well into retirement (how depressing is that??). I also have a car payment to make (3-year lease I started this past August thinking my life was set in stone--another brilliant move), rent to pay, a monthly cell phone bill, and of course, credit card debt. I think its safe to say the panic and depression are well justified. :D

And then I bought this book. I just finished reading Step 1, got on this site to use the dreamlining spreadsheet, and promptly got sidetracked by the discussion boards (typical). This book has restored my hope for an above-average life. I'm not a 9-5er, nor will I allow myself to remain in an unfulfilling job. The latter quality used to be an unfortunate quality because up until 4HWW came along, I never allowed myself to dream, or to believe that I am capable of owning my own business (and a successful one at that). This is the first time I've let myself believe that I can have the life I refused to dream of. I'm terrified! What if I fail? What if I can't come up with something marketable? What if it goes under and I have to file for bankruptcy? But Tim has taught me that the cost of inaction is far greater than the cost of action. This really is my only choice. And besides, what do I have to lose? Some random unfulfilling job that I'll quit in 3 months anyway? I've got nothing to lose. Easy choice, huh?

My biggest dilemma at this point is pretty much the same as yours: take the job to earn the desperately-needed money while I get my own business underway, or devote all time and energy to the new business and the 4HWW lifestyle?? Due to my financial crisis, I need this new business to work NOW, and judging by the responses I've read here already I'm thinking I need to find a temporary job until it the 4HWW business plan starts generating enough money to live off of (which is, unfortunately, a lot). In 6-months I want this business to be up and running well enough that I can quit this other temporary job and begin to shift my life to the 4HWW lifestyle for good :D Oh, and I'm also getting married within the next two years; I want to be out-of-the-woods financially and be living completely off of my business BEFORE I get married!!!

So if anyone out there has any advice, mglkensington and I would greatly appreciate it!! And above all, please, please, please tell me this 4HWW thing is for real!!

Good luck everyone, and nice to meet you!

CaitanyaDasa
10-10-2007, 10:17 PM
Who are you? am I this body or am I something else. The great acaryas or spiritual masters have always taught that the first business is to know who I am. Once that is answered then I can move on to what I should do.

When I got our of college, I was not at all interested in earning money in any capitalist endeavour. Then after many months of independent study George Harrison from the Beatles passed and his song My Sweet Lord was on the rasio and I heard it for the first time and it was an epiphany. Then 9/11 happened and I wanted to leave NYC and go to an organic farm. Then I moved into a temple. 3 years ago I met my wife also a devotee. We are now without any finances and trying to get something off the ground.
Our weblog is Vediccookingclasses.wordpress.com (http://www.Vediccookingclasses.wordpress.com)

We did a few festivals and now we are at the incubator for small business in N.C.

What I suggest is step out and do something. Thats when you get ideas inspiration etc. And search out the absolute truth. After all thats what life is all about.

here's a link for some special guidance :) (http://prabhupadavani.org/)

mglkensington
10-11-2007, 12:54 AM
Thank you- that is very true. I'm spiritually grounded, so now I just need to take that and transfer it to my ambitions. I will explore the site as well. And all the best to you and your endeavors- I support organic farming and also love George Harrison! :)