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Tedog007
08-21-2007, 06:24 PM
Hi Everyone!

First of all I am new to these forums and about halfway through the book, which I think is excellent. I was recently let go from my last job and have been out of work for a month now. Does anyone have any good strategies for how to market myself for the jobs I really want? I've been on a ton of interviews over the past few years and either I get the run around or get completely passed over. Ideally I'd like to work for a marketing or PR firm and lately hedge funds have impressed me a lot as well. I can see myself in these places, I just need the right push. I've tried all the big job sites, Craigslist, and even some resume blasting services, but I'm still stuck. Does anyone have a good system? Also, I live in Chicago, so that might help. If anyone needs more specifics on my background, please let me know, I'd be happy to oblige. Thanks in advance!

final_id
08-22-2007, 01:25 PM
Gee, you're not with the 4HWW program at all, are you? :)

Why do you think you're getting the run-around? Is it poor interview technique, lack of experience, lack of education, bad hygiene, bad wardrobe, lack of knowledge? Usually, if you are committed to working in the rat-race (emotionally, really you "believe" in it), and you do your research and have the valid background, the "right" job will indeed hire you, and you won't find that a continual series of rejections happens. You'll be hired at roughly where the market would assess you to "deserve" to be hired. It isn't a foolproof system, and there are plenty of variables, but I find that generally people get what they put into that system, if they aren't total idiots about their job search.

If you're convinced of your own committed feelings (and I would have to question you: WHY do you feel committed to the rat race? haven't you read 4HWW!!?), then the rejections must have something to do with the controllable factors. What is your education? Why are you waffling among such disparate fields: PR and marketing, on the one hand; hedge funds, on the other. The former requires good writing skills, understanding of the advertising markets, client-oriented business skills, rapid turn-around of proposals and glossy brochures; the latter is a math-related business, in which long hours of spreadsheet analysis and a deep understanding of long-term strategies and financial concepts are applied to high-risk investments. They don't sound to me like they're similar at all (except for the fact that you go to an office, wear a suit, sit in a cubicle, and waste your life trading time for money instead of following the 4HWW plan ...).

luv2trvl1
08-23-2007, 02:47 AM
Tedog,

Good luck, I wish you the best... good questions, but for the wrong forum. You will have a much better chance of getting help and good advice from one of the many job hunting forums out there.

Talon
08-23-2007, 03:01 AM
I have received at least three requests ever so months for an interview for the past few years from Monsterboard.
With that I have been sought or reviewed a total 1500 times.
Interveiws I usually get the position on the third interview.

What do I offer.
Skill and experience that is unique to the industry.

thus stated
What is your experience?
What is your education?

If you want to enjoy the world
Join Peace Corps-
Did this and it was a blast.

panthergrl
08-23-2007, 12:53 PM
I would have to agree with final_id.. I was so inspired by the book that I decided to get out of the rat race and pursue my dreams.

One thing I can say is that Intentions and Beliefs are very powerful. When your beliefs and intentions are aligned, you'll be amazed at what can be accomplished. I remember how I got the job that I'm leaving now. For 3 years after I graduated from college, I worked from home. Many people think that working from home is the ultimate dream, but in reality it can be just as much of a prison as working in an office, especially when someone else is calling the shots. I think Tim even mentions in the book that you should not make your home your workspace for that reason. But the truth is I had to do something because no one would hire me. Then, one night I got fed up. Right at that moment I decided that I was going to find a job in my field. I think the main difference between that night and all other nights is that I knew that a job is what I intended to have and that it was already mine. I then took action and went to Careerpath.com and Monster.com and updated my resume. I also decided to spruce up my portfolio. Then 2 days later I got a phone call about a position. I went in the next day for an interview and was hired on the spot.

Now, of course there were certain factors that helped such as updating my resume and portfolio. But I tell you the truth, the pieces in my portfolio hadn't changed, only the presentation. In addition, my resume was only updated not rewritten. So the main thing that I believe affected my getting a job was my intention and beliefs aligning. I knew that I would get the job and would not accept no for an answer. I was then motivated to take whatever actions necessary.

Now, in case you're wondering, I'm leaving my job because it doesn't align with my ultimate dream. My ultimate dream has always been to have a career where I set my own hours, enjoy what I do, and make real good money. Although my job allowed me to make decent money, I was not happy and the hours were wearing me out. I believe at some point we all must be true to ourselves.

So in conclusion ;) , I encourage you to explore options that don't include working for someone else. However, if the career of your dream requires this, then try to see where your intentions and beliefs are not aligned... Once you align them, you'll be amazed at how much you can accomplish.

atiff
08-23-2007, 01:22 PM
I would have to agree with final_id.. I was so inspired by the book that I decided to get out of the rat race and pursue my dreams.

One thing I can say is that Intentions and Beliefs are very powerful. When your beliefs and intentions are aligned, you'll be amazed at what can be accomplished. I remember how I got the job that I'm leaving now. For 3 years after I graduated from college, I worked from home. Many people think that working from home is the ultimate dream, but in reality it can be just as much of a prison as working in an office, especially when someone else is calling the shots. I think Tim even mentions in the book that you should not make your home your workspace for that reason. But the truth is I had to do something because no one would hire me. Then, one night I got fed up. Right at that moment I decided that I was going to find a job in my field. I think the main difference between that night and all other nights is that I knew that a job is what I intended to have and that it was already mine. I then took action and went to Careerpath.com and Monster.com and updated my resume. I also decided to spruce up my portfolio. Then 2 days later I got a phone call about a position. I went in the next day for an interview and was hired on the spot.

Now, of course there were certain factors that helped such as updating my resume and portfolio. But I tell you the truth, the pieces in my portfolio hadn't changed, only the presentation. In addition, my resume was only updated not rewritten. So the main thing that I believe affected my getting a job was my intention and beliefs aligning. I knew that I would get the job and would not accept no for an answer. I was then motivated to take whatever actions necessary.

Now, in case you're wondering, I'm leaving my job because it doesn't align with my ultimate dream. My ultimate dream has always been to have a career where I set my own hours, enjoy what I do, and make real good money. Although my job allowed me to make decent money, I was not happy and the hours were wearing me out. I believe at some point we all must be true to ourselves.

So in conclusion ;) , I encourage you to explore options that don't include working for someone else. However, if the career of your dream requires this, then try to see where your intentions and beliefs are not aligned... Once you align them, you'll be amazed at how much you can accomplish.
Hey Natasha

How is that Google Cash thing you are learning comming about. Is it worth the money ?

panthergrl
08-23-2007, 02:39 PM
Hey Natasha

How is that Google Cash thing you are learning comming about. Is it worth the money ?

Hi there. Personally, I liked it, it has a lot of good information and step by step instructions on Google Adwords from how to get started to setting up your ads. Someone else was also asking so I wrote a little pros and con here (http://fourhourworkweek.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=358).

Alexa
09-07-2007, 11:46 AM
[QUOTE=panthergrl;3135]

For 3 years after I graduated from college, I worked from home.

Panther Girl: If I may ask, what were you doing as a recent college grad that allowed you to work from home right from college? I have looked a freelance translation jobs, but there do not seem to be very many telecommuting possibilities for someone with a liberal arts background. I just graduated last week, and although I have several prestigious internships, the job market does not seem to be very welcoming. I do want to incorporate the 4HWW principles into my life, but I need more consistent cashflow before making that jump.

Thanks! Alexa