Adult website?

[jon166]

Heya, I know this isn't particulary a muse, because of the nature, but I have an idea for a very niche fetish website. I have tried looking for this on the web, but specifically cannot find one. But how would I go about testing this idea? I'm thinking I could just e-lance someone to build me a website, and do some ppc and see how many "subscribes" I can get. Is there another way?

I do plan on seeing production of the videos, and organize the actors and such, so I want to be part of it, not it to be completely automated, but does anyone have any advice? I'm just eighteen with a dream, and i was just wondering if anyone could help me out !

Thanks !

[JSimpson]

The immediate thing I would say is you need to do research on the laws about online pornography and internet hosting. Every individual displayed on your page must have a scanned drivers license showing over 18, and a consent form. The fees for seting up a site are rather large, a female friend of mine use to run a webcam, and although attractive she barely made enough money. The market is saturated and there's plenty of "free" goods.

There's always the possiblity and the sex industry is incredibly profitable for some. But I wouldn't suggest it.

[jon166]

I can see your point of view, but I wouldn't dare with normal pornography. I have in mind a fetish that is very niche and as far as I'm concerned doesn't have any websites catering to it.

Start-up costs are concerning as well, but I think if I can find a way to test the market I would go ahead and see if it's alright, thats the main thing I want to do now, but I have absolutely no idea how to do that.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the matter?

[onemoretry]

Is there literally *no* content out there that comes close to catering your niche? It seems unlikely that if it involves humans and a camera, that it hasn't been done yet. Maybe you could license something close? It (the content) may not be spot-on but it would still allow you to "test" your muse.

My concern is if there's really no similar content out there, that people don't want to see it. But I might be wrong.

[Vagabond]

No offense, but you must have one twisted mind ;)

[final_id]

I've thought about trying to do internet porn before. :) Here are some of my considerations.

I see a lot of affiliate-oriented porn sites. One sign-in gets you to a lot of smaller sites, or sites re-link to one another. It looks to me like it's a developer-heavy task, requiring a lot of knowledge of HTML, Java, and other computer stuff. And then you gotta drive traffic to your site by constantly second-guessing Google et al.. And that will be harder, since nearly all porn is virtual and therefore all business owners in that industry are computer jocks who are experts at second-guessing Google et al. already. It's easy enough to get to be the top search result for a site that sells the best shaving brush cream soap cleaning bowl made out of terra cotta in Nova Scotia. It's hard to get to be the top search result for a site that sells "sex" or "porn" or even "duct tape barnyard carpet burn mazola porn."

If you search for "how to run a porn site" or something like that, you actually get two or three helpful web pages written by folks who have tried it and gotten fed up with it, and they can tell you lots of potential pitfalls; plus, from the same search, you also get a LOT of affiliate site ads: people who want you to sign up to be one tier lower than them in their pyramid scheme. Most of the sites that I've looked at on the pornternet are mostly re-purposed content -- same old images or videos, repackaged or cut-and-pasted computer-wise differently. You'd have to know how to cut-and-paste the videos, and how to get a license for the right to redistribution, etc.

I suspect a lot of people have thought of this and maybe gotten it done, maybe not. I think most of the "niche" porn sites out there are now small-tier things, put together pretty much with a "Muse" type dream in mind. The ones that make a lot of money, and the ones that merely break even, will all look nearly exactly the same. There's no way to know which porn peddler is running a site remotely that's automated and gets him exactly one penny more than cost every month, merely by looking at the sites themselves.

I'm guessing that it's a lot of hassle, especially in the computer programming end of things, and there are also the licensing and legality concerns. Are you allowed to film a person here but have let the internet ship it across borders to there? What about Mississippi or Georgia, where it's technically illegal for ANY HUMAN TO OWN PORNOGRAPHY OF ANY FORM? And what kind of lawyer are you going to hire to check into all of this? You now know all the legal specifics which I know -- MS and GA. I don't know any more. I'm sure there are a billion more.

I'll admit, the tempting part (for me, as a single adult heterosexual male) is the idea of setting up some kind of "amateur" or "new girls" site where *I* get to be one of the male performers who gets to sample new female performers. There are sites like this: "new amateurs" and films of "radical party" events, and "girl wants to be in porn" and "I am the man behind the camera" type sites out there that tempt my perpetually horny mind to wish to set up my own. I don't know if all those attractive girls are getting paid lots, or a little, or maybe none at all because they believe the fantasy that they'll "break in" through your internet site. I remember before higher bandwidths made webcams ubiquitous, there were some systems that got the female performers to sign up with a "my space" type page and "pay" for that page a small percentage out of their earnings. This would be genius for the owner, who has girls creating his content for him, AND then paying him for the right to distribute it on his site. All he has to do is up-front creation of the sign-in and set-up phenomenon (make the "my space" system run) and then find the performers who are willing to get going with him.

I suspect you don't meet a lot of "winner" type people, if you're spending your time auditioning porn talent. And if you're in some place that's a hotbed (LA valley area?) then some bigger concern is going to want to either buy you out or intimidate you out of the business. A LOT of major porn investment goes into "keeping the girls happy" and finding new girls. You lose a star performer, and that's your cash cow walking down the road to someone else's barn. Paying good cash is one thing. Many of them will probably expect a certain "lifestyle" and will be attracted to the moguls who display it -- big crazy mansion, free-flowing alcohol and drugs, nice pool and jacuzzi for them to lay out all day after they do the nasty once with a gorgeous Italian endowed with a two-foot organ. And all that stuff about drugs being illegal, about them spending all their money on lingerie before they remember to pay the rent, about their ex-boyfriend showing up and threatening to beat them up if they keep on doing the nasty with that Italian? That's YOUR problem now, she's your cow to keep however you can.

My fantasy would be, that I own a laptop and a hand-held video camera and I go to some place like South Padre Island for spring break. I get all these screaming hot-looking drunk college girls to sign waivers, go to bed with me, perform ridiculously libertine sexual acts all over me while I film it, and then off they go back to school. I take the tapes and put 'em up on the internet and make a zillion bucks off it. The girls like me so much they find the videos of themselves on the internet, hunt me down, and beg me to have sex with them some more and please please please film it and put it on the internet.

I wonder if you can tend away from the frightening "HelL.A." Los Angeles model, and a little toward my fantasy, if you're aware of the problems. Have you been involved in a porn shoot before? Have you ever re-purposed videos for the internet? (Or pictures?) Do you even know any porn performers or people who are willing to transfer their design and videography skills from the legitimate world into a place where they're embarrassed to put their work into their portfolio? I would guess that some outsourcing options would simply disappear. "Sure, mister Jones. We'd be happy to show you some designs for a small-market website. Oh, wait, it's for porn? No, we can't do that. It tarnishes our company image if our other clients find out that we work in that field."

I remember a news story -- maybe you can find it by Googling -- that reported that all that business about how much money was being made in porn, was actually WILDLY inflated. In fact, it was nowhere near the billions and billions originally told, because there really aren't industry statistics-gathering agencies that are independent of the peddlers themselves. You can generally find out how many bottles of Witch-hazel have been bought, by asking someone OTHER than Witch-hazel's manufacturer, but only the Adult Video Network claims to have any statistics about how many OF THEIR OWN PRODUCTS are making umpteen gazillions in profit. The newspaper eventually concluded that the real amount was roughly one tenth of what is widely reported.

These are all just some thoughts I have. I'm not really sure any of them are true or false, I just wonder.