Outsourcing the muse creation etc

[solomonneuhardt]

I was wondering if anyone found a company (India based or otherwise) that is good at finding the muse, testing it, implementing, and so forth.

It could be a company that sets up reselling of jackhammers (not my primary profession) or more importantly is willing to take their knowledge of websites for example and tailor it to whatever your unique knowledge area is (e.g. law, medicine, etc.). Thanks!

[Sven]

There are probably plenty. They will make your money too.
Get real dude, this is something YOU have to do!

[solomonneuhardt]

Last I checked I can pay someone to write books for me, for example.

[Kursal]

Sounds like an interesting business idea. At least if you could provide the tools that would allow people easy-ish access in to online selling etc. Sounds like a lot of work too though, lol.

[kamakiri]

The only one I know is here in Japan. I own it. The initial consultation fee is $975,000 per muse. PM me if you are interested, I will send you my private line.

[froldt]

The only one I know is here in Japan. I own it. The initial consultation fee is $975,000 per muse. PM me if you are interested, I will send you my private line.

There are actually two. The other is in the USA and is operated by yours truly. We're running a special today, only $750,000 per muse. :cool:

[webgal]

I'll do my own muse but I want someone to brush my teeth for me. It's gotten too time consuming.

I think you have to put the time in to start with and do the hand off later.

[Mark Balla]

There are actually two. The other is in the USA and is operated by yours truly. We're running a special today, only $750,000 per muse. :cool:

You guys are expensive. We do this in Australia for $499990.95 including tax

[webgal]

You win, Mark. I'm going to give you a call. That's an awesome price.

[froldt]

Yup, I'm afraid that I can't beat your price, Mark.

[Mark Balla]

Just one thing. How good do you expect this muse to be?

[Revv23]

Mark, can I have a muse worth between ten and twelve billion please? That should fufill my dreamline. If not I can go to froldt.

[kamakiri]

Stay away from these under cutters (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DMm55ZIc9M0o&sa=X&oi=video_result&resnum=3&ct=thumbnail&usg=AFQjCNGMRMjng4bUOmp7MEjSXSZgjWUb-g). I guarantee my muses.

[Marcie]

ok guys, let's get this one back on-topic, if possible. Thanks!

[froldt]

On a more serious note, I could outsource the vast majority of my muse creation, if I had the money. It would only cost a few hundred dollars, but I just can't afford it at the moment.
However, I came up with the idea, and would be paying a series of freelancers to complete the individual steps. agent A would perform task A, team B would perform task B (which could become a recurring gig for them), agent C would perform task C. I would take the results of these three and do tasks D and E (or pay some college student to do it for me), then sit back and wait for the results of this testing. If the tests came out positive, I would hire B on a more permanent basis (recurring monthly tasks), perform step D and E for a couple of months. During these couple of months I would find a firm to complete steps D and E for me, and would then only be spending about 20 hours a month on the muse.

So, no, I don't know of any company that will create a muse for you. However, I know that if you come up with an idea, you can very easily get the muse put together with a minimal of time yourself. If I were to outsource these tasks instead of doing them myself, I would have spent about 40 hours (high, high estimate) and would already be up and running, or have moved on to the next idea.

[kamakiri]

I can't imagine what you would have a team of 5 people working on. Communication (or lack there of) will kill you.

A site from a team you find through Elance will cost you less than $300. If you don't have that to spend, then go out and get a job at MacDonald's. There is no free lunch dude. Living the 4HWW life takes a boat load of work, and a big chunk of cash.

[BrotherPhil]

I actually had been thinking about this while listening to the book on CD.

Why can't I have my outsourced personnel do all of the work researching, posting articles on various bulletin boards, or posting articles about products on my websites, or do any NUMBER of things that would further automate the affiliate program I am having a HECK o a time getting off of the ground (mainly because I have no extra time right now)!?!?!?

I mean, it CAN be done, can't it???

[BrotherPhil]

You guys are expensive. We do this in Australia for $499990.95 including tax

You guys are HORRIBLE! I live in the Mississippi Delta - aka the US's OWN Third World Country, and we'll do this work, WITH an American Accent for $249,999.95! :D

[kamakiri]

I mean, it CAN be done, can't it???

Yes it could be done, but the chances of it being successful are near zilch. You mention a lack of time, but I can assure you you will waste more time trying that way, because you are pretty much assured of failing.

If you have no time now, then a better place to look would be at yourself. Begin reviewing your own life, cutting out the fat, dumping unproductive activities. Did you really read the book?

[padma]

I actually had been thinking about this while listening to the book on CD.

Why can't I have my outsourced personnel do all of the work researching, posting articles on various bulletin boards, or posting articles about products on my websites, or do any NUMBER of things that would further automate the affiliate program I am having a HECK o a time getting off of the ground (mainly because I have no extra time right now)!?!?!?

I mean, it CAN be done, can't it???

Why would they give you legit info instead of keeping it for themselves? It would take more time to set up that process than to do it yourself. Have we really gotten that lazy?

[badhank]

On a more serious note, I could outsource the vast majority of my muse creation, if I had the money. It would only cost a few hundred dollars, but I just can't afford it at the moment.
However, I came up with the idea, and would be paying a series of freelancers to complete the individual steps. agent A would perform task A, team B would perform task B (which could become a recurring gig for them), agent C would perform task C. I would take the results of these three and do tasks D and E (or pay some college student to do it for me), then sit back and wait for the results of this testing. If the tests came out positive, I would hire B on a more permanent basis (recurring monthly tasks), perform step D and E for a couple of months. During these couple of months I would find a firm to complete steps D and E for me, and would then only be spending about 20 hours a month on the muse.

So, no, I don't know of any company that will create a muse for you. However, I know that if you come up with an idea, you can very easily get the muse put together with a minimal of time yourself. If I were to outsource these tasks instead of doing them myself, I would have spent about 40 hours (high, high estimate) and would already be up and running, or have moved on to the next idea.

I thought about this too, its is in theory possible to build a great outsourced team... removing yourself as the only point of contact is the hard part, but i guess you could hire some to do that once you set some guidelines

[froldt]

I can't imagine what you would have a team of 5 people working on. Communication (or lack there of) will kill you.

A site from a team you find through Elance will cost you less than $300. If you don't have that to spend, then go out and get a job at MacDonald's. There is no free lunch dude. Living the 4HWW life takes a boat load of work, and a big chunk of cash.

It's not a team of 5, it's a series of 5 tasks, each of which would be farmed out to the respective professionals in the specific field (found from Elance). IE, someone to write the salescopy, someone to come up with the logo, someone to write some articles (which would become a monthly task if successful). Other than the articles, once the task is done, that is all I will require of them.

I'm not making a website, and if I do, it will be about three pages; well within my abilities to create.
My current income has been spent on the wedding/honeymoon that I just had and putting our new apartment together. I am content to sit and learn some new skills while putting this muse together, and I have set a deadline for myself. If I don't get finished within that deadline, I will take some money and pay someone to do it for me.
At this point, I am willing to do the boatloads of work, but am reluctant to spend the boatloads of money. So I will leverage my time in place of the money.

[kamakiri]

At this point, I am willing to do the boatloads of work, but am reluctant to spend the boatloads of money. So I will leverage my time in place of the money.

You miss my point entirely, in fact, leveraging time for money is the opposite of the 4HWW. The whole point of the book is to work smart. To use all options available to you so that you don't have to 'leverage time for money, because that strategy is inherently flawed. It also doesn't cost boatloads of money.

[froldt]

You miss my point entirely, in fact, leveraging time for money is the opposite of the 4HWW. The whole point of the book is to work smart. To use all options available to you so that you don't have to 'leverage time for money, because that strategy is inherently flawed. It also doesn't cost boatloads of money.

You are right, I did forget that principle. I'll focus on selling a few things on ebay to raise the money (they're sitting in the "out" box, ready to be listed), then get the muse going.

Living the 4HWW life takes a boat load of work, and a big chunk of cash.
Sorry, misquoted.

[BrotherPhil]

Why would they give you legit info instead of keeping it for themselves? It would take more time to set up that process than to do it yourself. Have we really gotten that lazy?

Padma
Its not an issue of being lazy. I'm a full time high school teacher, assistant basketball coach, and a part time (pay) minister at my church. On top of that, I'm working on another masters degree to become Highly Qualified so I can teach in a public school system for the purpose of getting insurance, which I don't have right now, since I was recently diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes.

I would LOVE to have the extra time to do this work... but, right now, my four hour work week is just resting and recuperating from my 90 hours of work doing my other jobs.

I"m sorry if you thought I was lazy... that was not what I was attempting to convey at all.

[padma]

Padma
Its not an issue of being lazy. I'm a full time high school teacher, assistant basketball coach, and a part time (pay) minister at my church. On top of that, I'm working on another masters degree to become Highly Qualified so I can teach in a public school system for the purpose of getting insurance, which I don't have right now, since I was recently diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes.

I would LOVE to have the extra time to do this work... but, right now, my four hour work week is just resting and recuperating from my 90 hours of work doing my other jobs.

I"m sorry if you thought I was lazy... that was not what I was attempting to convey at all.

Well, one thing you will probably have in common with most people here is that we all have jobs that suck the life out of us and leave little time for work on the side. However, you have to prioritize and if starting a business is something you want to do...well you have to make time. I'm not saying you are lazy, but this topic keeps coming up and what people don't realize is that if you don't do it on your own, you will have to rely on others to keep creating muses for you.

[Workin4DaMan]

In trying to come up w/ a muse, I thought about whether something like this would work, also. More specifically, outsourcing research to find out what the best-selling item on the internet is (most sales, highest profit margins, etc), & then looking into who manufactures such items, the possibilities of drop-shipping, etc. Part of the instructions to the outsourcing company could include research on items that fit Tim's criteria (ie, products between $50-200, etc).