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Hostel_Takeover
06-09-2008, 03:06 PM
I am considering a life as a performer, stage hypnosis, and I was wondering if any of you are out there doing this and how you have applied the 4HWW to your career.
thanks in advance,
Hostel_Takeover

storm33229
06-09-2008, 04:14 PM
I am considering a life as a performer, stage hypnosis, and I was wondering if any of you are out there doing this and how you have applied the 4HWW to your career.
thanks in advance,
Hostel_Takeover
Being a performer doesn't exactly equate to 4 hours a week, but you could try:

-80/20 principle:
--selecting shows that pay you the most for the least
-Low Information Diet:
--making everyone else process the unimportant and only relay the highly necessary information to you.
-Elimination:
-Don't spend a lot of time on fan mail and general tasks that others could be performing

I'm not overly familiar with the lifestyles of a performer but I am betting that at a very minimum the things above could be applied. I hope that helps. ;)

webgal
06-09-2008, 04:27 PM
Write supporting products so you promote them in your act.

Hostel_Takeover
06-09-2008, 07:14 PM
I realize I am not cutting my life down to 4 hrs per week to become a performer, but it is line with my passions and will allow me to create both active and passive income while pursuing my real love, travel.
thanks for the responses, please keep them coming if you have any good ideas. I will post my website once I have my talents honed and ready for travel.
Sincerely,
Hostel_Takeover

badhank
06-09-2008, 07:17 PM
I am considering a life as a performer, stage hypnosis,

If you could hypnotize thousands of people to send you even $1 in the mail every month... CHA-CHING

p.s. i wanna b ur manager

forgiven
06-12-2008, 06:48 AM
being a performer is still trading your minutes (time) for dollars (money).

The big picture is to not do that for the money. If you want to do this 'job' because it is fun and you want to be part of it for social reasons go ahead...

BUT, 4HWW says before you get into your dreams you should create your muse to fund it/so you don't have to worry about the rent cheque while your travelling and doing shows.

lovinglife
06-12-2008, 01:03 PM
Couple of questions:Are you currently perfoming professionally (i.e. have you actually ever been paid to perform in front of a group or has it always been for family and freinds). Have you researched and see what other stage hypnosis performers do? I did a quick search and found several sites of individual performers and what looks to a site for people in that business.

My husband is a musician and in the music business. He primarily plays rock and roll cover band type of stuff and plays locally (he does not make a living off of it). I have spent the past 20 plus years being around people in the music business. Several people having Grammy awards and/or gold records. I can tell you that they work their butts off.

You are choosing a specialized area. You will need (if you haven't aleady) to put together an exceptional promo pack and start pounding on a lot of doors and do a lot of follow up to establish yourself. Also, your venues are going to be more limited because of your type of act. Unless you live in a large city, you will most likely be doing a lot of travel which involves even more work in making arrangements, contracts, etc.

The recent gas increases have begun to take their toll on my husband's band. They had to turn down a gig two days ago because the payment offered would not have offset the gas (this place was a bit of a drive out of the city we live in). The club owners have rising costs just like everyone else and they are not able to pay anymore for entertainment. Now this is for a band, but it wouldn't surprise me to see the same thing happen other areas of entertainment. Entertainment is a nice extra, but when the money tightens, then extras start getting replaced by cheaper alternatives or eliminated.

With all of that said - if you truly love performing and, when you crunch the numbers, you can pay the bills, then go for it. I know musicians who are on the road year round. They stop home long enough to wave hi to friends and families and they are gone again. Performing is their life and they are not happy unless they are doing it.

Hostel_Takeover
07-16-2008, 06:11 AM
Thanks for everyone who took the time to respond, I appreciate your feedback.
No, performing, simply because it revolves around you personally, isn't the greatest model for a four hour work week. When you are the muse, it is hard to automate and liberate from yourself. Stage hypnosis can offer a short work week at the end of the day simply because most shows are exactly one hour and if you apply the 4HWW principles to the business end of "show business" you can have a lot of spare time in between gigs.
There will be prep time and lead generation, but that is true no matter the business. Thankfully, performing hypnosis, relative to other peformance arts lends itself to residual/additional income if you offer hypnosis CD's(smoking cessation, weight loss, improved self confidence, etc...). This allows further use of Tim's principles.
I am doing it because I decided slinging real estate wasn't and never would be a passion for me, however I realized that performing along with the chance to change lives through hypnosis is easily a passion worth working for.
Since my original post I have become certified in hypnosis and will start performing(while keeping my day job and my original muse, a lead generation business). I will keep anyone interested posted by updating this thread from time to time.
thanks,
Patrick
Hostel_Takeover

FrozenCanuck
07-16-2008, 11:38 AM
Hostel - a very good friend of mine is an outstanding and really well respected stage hypnotist (he now does less of that and more teaching) ... in any case, I would suggest to you that if you gain a good reputation, you can live very well doing just one stage show per week, which is basically less than 4 hrs work.

You are still trading time for money, but it is a lot of money for a little time.

Just my 2 cents.

fduijts
07-16-2008, 11:59 AM
Ever heard of Derren Brown? Well in your line of work you should be familiar with all of his work. Check him out to get some ideas for your show and read his book as research for your own muse!

About your muse: In Tim's book he speaks of creating expert status (credibility, can't remember Tim's exact words). Follow Tim's guidelines for this and also film your shows, write a book about stage performing and how people can learn it via your 'product'. Reveal some tricks (always works well). And combine it all on a website where you offer the DVD's and your book. The DVD's are compiled partly from your shows and partly as an explanation of how to do this yourself. Be sure to put a warning in it that this knowledge shouldn't be taken lightly etc. etc. etc.

The final step would be mailing me to ask for my bank number on which you can deposit 10% of your earnings. But seriously, think about what I said above.