The Tim Ferriss Podcast, Episode 3: Kelly Starrett and Dr. Justin Mager


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It’s my first podcast threesome! [blush]


This episode features two incredible guests: Dr. Justin Mager and Kelly Starrett. We all drink wine and get crazy.

Dr. Mager is my personal doctor and has helped me with dozens of my crazy experiments, complete with blood testing and next-generation tracking. He’s brilliant (and hilarious).

Kelly Starrett is one of the top Crossfit coaches in the world, and one of my favorite PTs and performance trainers. His clients include Olympic gold medalists, Tour de France cyclists, world and national record holders in Olympic lifting and powerlifting, Crossfit Games medalists, ballet dancers, and elite military personnel. If you’re interested in taking your body or brain to the next level, or attempting to become the guy from Limitless, this episode is for you.


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If you’d like a teaser of Episode 3, some of the subjects we cover are below. Learn more about Kelly at MobilityWOD and through his Twitter account:

  • Defining a “performance whore”
  • The potent combination that is Justin Mager
  • What makes people “well” and what makes people thrive
  • Mixing passions for endocrinology and eastern philosophy
  • How chakras described in Ayurvedic medicine correspond to nerve plexuses and endocrine glands
  • How Justin Mager changes lives by exploring the body as a whole
  • Experimenting on the fringes of physiology and what limits can be pushed
  • Working with high-end athletes and military to exceed supposed “optimal” performance
  • Blood testing is a snapshot, not a overall description of health — how do you improve it? What do you measure?
  • Delving into the effects of travel on circadian rhythms, and how to correct problems
  • Exploring the Quantified Self (QS) movement and Kevin Kelly
  • Testing quality of sleep
  • Why science isn’t the cause-and-effect master of the universe, or shouldn’t be viewed as such
  • Pattern recognition and “chunking” for improved talent acquisition
  • The diverse role of genetics; what can be changed and what cannot
  • The health and performance implications of testosterone, boners, sleep, and more
  • Mattress selection from the mobility expert (Kelly)
  • Hacking the nervous system for rejuvenating sleep, utilizing body temperature as a tool
  • Rebooting the parasympathetic nervous system
  • “Supple Leopard” morning rituals
  • Kelly’s test of functional mobility
  • How pain tolerance, mobility, and movement come together
  • Common qualities of top physicians, coaches, and bio-hackers, and how you can emulate them…


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Posted on: April 27, 2014.

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99 comments on “The Tim Ferriss Podcast, Episode 3: Kelly Starrett and Dr. Justin Mager

  1. Tim,

    Thank you for doing this great podcast. Episode 2 was fantastic and Episode 3 only improved on that. This podcast has quickly vaulted to the top of my “must-listen” list and I’m telling everyone about it. I plan on re-listening to Eps 2 and 3 many times over and adopting many of the things you all talked about. I can only imagine how good future episodes will be as well.

    Keep it up!!


  2. This was the best one so far. Tons of good information. Is the Supple Leopard not available for kindle? Or am I missing it on Amazon?

    I think the things that people are complaining about are ridiculous.The only thing I wasn’t crazy about was the audio in the second one. But it is what it is. It was still a good show. The cussing and drinking are fine. If you don’t like it don’t listen. You’ll be robbing yourself of a ton of good information.

    Tim – You should try to get Dave Asprey on. I’ve listened to a couple of his and am not a big fan but I think the two of you together would be good.


  3. Hi Tim,

    I really enjoyed this podcast! One question that came up for me is how do I educate myself to perform a heart rate variability test? Briefly researching, I can find everything from promises of performing hrv testing through the camera of my phone, to apps requiring a chest strap with Bluetooth connection, to requiring additional hardware.

    Are you willing and able to share how you perform this test, or perhaps where I could find reputable information?

    Thank you!



  4. Listening to this a second time. Some outstanding content and ideas, Kelly gets the prize for best one liners (loved “take the chairs away” idea to solve childhood obesity) and the interplay between the three of you had me laughing out loud in several places.

    Early on there was talk of using intermittent fasting for reducing impact of travel – any resources you can recommend here?

    Keep ‘em coming. These podcasts are great.



  5. Great podcast Tim, easily the best one to date… the conversation with these 2 subject matter experts really is great. I stopped the podcast part of the way through to perform the ‘squat test’ haha.

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  6. Tim-

    Really enjoying the podcasts. The Ryan Holiday one is the best one so far in my opinion. It was a very well produced show and the content was incredible.

    My only criticism is the wine drinking during the recording of some of the episodes. Specifically in episode 3 it seemed to deflate the quality of the show. While I am sure it makes the conversations even more fun to have, the alcohol clearly impacts the ability of the speakers negatively when they try to communicate their ideas clearly. The quality of episode 4 over episode 3 is a great example of what I mean. Episode 3 was still amazing, but it did suffered a bit.

    Please take this criticism in the spirit in which it is offered, which is with peace and love.



  7. How can we find a network of like-minded doctors like Justin? I live in St. Louis, and would pay to know who Justin recommends in my area.


  8. Hi,
    actually my first comment although i´m reading now for more than a year. @ Tim: love almost everything, resonate with most of the stuff!
    Great Interview! This episode is acually my favorite, but Kevin and Josh are close behind. By the way, the alcohol doesn´t bother me either. There was a time, at least here in germany, when the hosts of the great shows at saturday night, in the public financed TV officially got drunk during the show…

    Thomas Hansen

    I apologize for any misspelling, the activ use of the englisch language wasn´t often required since school.


  9. Great Podcasts … I’ve been randomly watching them from Paris as a FFFF (French Follower Ferriss Fan !) Got to know about the Random Show Podcast and Kevin Rose thanks to this …Watching and Listening to you guys is just very inspiring … so much content. Thanks so much and please keep going !


  10. Can you have a direct download link to the podcast instead of Itunes, cuz I don’t want to have to download a program at work to have access. Plus I hate Itunes.