Housecleaning and Clarifications: Blog Content, 4HB Corrections, Competition Winners, Slow-Carb Mistakes, and More


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Holy crap. The 4-Hour Body (4HB) has ended up producing an avalanche of questions.

There are definitely a few gems hidden amongst the rubble, and more than a few typos were unearthed in the process.

This post — mostly how-to with a few bits of entertainment — is purely for tying up loose ends. I hope it helps.

Covered in this post:

The blog moving forward: 4HB content vs. 4HWW content vs. random topics
4HB Bonus Materials – If You Missed It
4HB Tools and Tricks – All Online!
Contest winners
Slow-carb clarifications
4-Hour Body – common questions and Q&As
Audiobook PDF downloads
4HB reader-generated goodies: desktop wallpaper, etc.
Media samples
4HB corrections and typos


The blog moving forward: 4HB content vs. 4HWW content vs. random topics

Some readers have expressed interest in more business-related posts, instead of physical-focused posts. Not to worry — there will continue to be both on this blog. In simplest terms, I write about what I’m most interested in (or passionate about) at the time. If you don’t find a post interesting, skip out for a bit and then check back in. I don’t expect anyone to read all of my posts.

4HB Bonus Materials – If You Missed It

The 4-Hour Body bonus materials have been up for a while now. If you missed them, all can be found here. Enjoy!

There are a number of forums and message boards for 4HB, including this blog and the reader-generated 4HBTalk.

For those interested, I’ll be experimenting with a private, paid forum (probably $9.95/month to start, but not sure) for 4HB. I’m going to test it with 100 people first. If you have any interest in being one of the 100 for $9.95/month, please fill out this form. My hope is that this forum can be a central troll-free and spam-free gathering point for people who are willing to test, gather data, and contribute to each other. I don’t want participants who ask others to Google simple questions for them. The price is a simple mechanism to separate out those who are most serious.

Regardless, information wants to be free. There are a ton of free resources and communities online, not to mention a 600-page book, that should be enough for anyone to make exceptional progress.

4HB Tools and Tricks — all online!

Ever wished all of links in the 4-Hour Body “Tools and Tricks” were online? You asked and I heard you — all of the resources links are now online here. Enjoy!

Contest winners!


Blog post: Have a Good Eye for Ads? Try the (Lucrative) 4-Hour Body Experiment…
Date: October 13
Winner: Salman Sajid (Congratulations!)

Prize(s): North Face Prophet 65 Trekking Pack (Retail: $319), A round-trip anywhere in the world Star Alliance airlines fly (or $1,000 cash), All 4-Hour Body revenue via ads on my site for two weeks (potentially every post ever written), using your Amazon affiliate code.
Notes: Here is Salman’s winning ad (he also won the smaller banner), based on click-through rate. I’ll be doing a longer analysis in a future blog post. The genius “Eat Like Santa, Look Like Jesus” ads, which I also used to great effect, was designed (visual and copy) by Conway Anderson. Amusingly, he and I randomly met on the Embarcadero sidewalk on the SF waterfront. He gave me his card “just in case” and here we are.


Blog post: “The Land Rush: 48 Hours to Claim $4,000,000 in Prizes” + “The 4-Hour Body is NOW OUT – Live Q&A Today, New Trailer, Free Books, and Much More”
Date: December 2010 (sadly, there were some great submissions who posted too late, like David Batchelor)
Winner: Camille. Runner-up: Roger P.

Prize(s): Free trip to the person who promotes The 4-Hour Body best this week. If you are the best promoter, judged by me and a panel of friends, you get to pick one trip of a lifetime… for free. I will almost definitely be in attendance: 8-Day Argentina Snow Adventure in Patagonia, or 10-Day Private Tour of India, including Miss India. Includes roundtrip economy airfare from and back to the U.S. Addendum: I’ll give the runner-up a round-trip anywhere in the world that Continental flies (or StarAlliance). Camille, you can also take this, if you prefer. No expiration date.

Slow-Carb Clarifications

I’m currently getting at least 500-1,000 questions a day via the blog, Twitter, Facebook, etc. about the slow-carb diet. Let me clarify a few things:

Do not eat the following, except for cheat days:
Sweet potatoes
Dairy (this includes cheese and yogurt of all kinds)

I mention cottage cheese at one point as a last resort. It is low in lactose, which is what you need to avoid. Ghee and cream (for coffee) should contain little or no lactose, hence you can use them. The same goes for effectively lactose-free, unflavored whey protein, etc..

[Note for the PubMed readers: It’s true that whey is partially (or wholly) responsible for the insulinemic response of most dairy, but avoiding lactose seems to be more directly correlated to faster fat-loss in the diet subjects I’ve tracked. Needless to say, avoiding all dairy is the simplest solution.]

SUPPLEMENTS: There is NO need for supplements on the slow-carb diet, besides magnesium, potassium, etc. in “Slow-Carb II.” PAGG is NOT necessary, so if you find it confusing, just omit it.

Post-workout carbs – If your goal is fat loss, and assuming you are not training for endurance competition:
– If you male and not 12% bodyfat or less, no post-workout carbs.
– If you are female and not 20% bodyfat or less, no post-workout carbs.

In the end, the point of 4HB is intelligent and responsible SELF-EXPERIMENTATION. I will not answer all of your questions, precisely because I want you to think for yourselves and figure it out. Hundreds of you have already done so. It’s not that hard.

The following will address 99%+ of confusion:

– If you have to ask, don’t eat it.
– If you haven’t had blood tests done, I don’t want to hear that the diet doesn’t work.
– If you aren’t measuring inches or haven’t measured bodyfat % with an accurate tool (BodPod, etc. and NOT bodyfat scales), I don’t want to hear that the diet doesn’t work.
– If you’re a woman and taking measurements within 10 days prior to menstruation (which I advise against in the book), I don’t want to hear about the lack of progress.

– On the critical 4-6 week window:
For people over 40 and women (especially after two kids), it’s quite common that the most dramatic fat-loss and weight change comes after 4-6 weeks on the diet. I have no explanation for this. Needless to say, if you haven’t done the diet for AT LEAST four weeks, please don’t post a comment about plateauing and panicking. I can’t give you meaningful advice without a ton of other supporting data (blood tests, etc.), and it’s physically impossible for me to respond to each person.

To reiterate: The entire goal of 4HB is to make you a self-sufficient self-experimenter within safe boundaries. Track yourself, follow the rules, and track the changes if you break or bend the rules. Simple as that. That’s what I did to arrive at my conclusions, and that’s what you will do — with a huge head start with the 4HB — to arrive at yours.

Do it for 4 weeks and then troubleshoot if you’re plateauing.

If you post a plea for help anywhere, include at least two FULL days of your meals and snacks so people can actually help you.

Most of those saying they’re “following the diet to the letter” are doing nothing of the sort. Reread “Slow-Carb II” in 4HB.

Last, I’ll repeat the basic approach to the unknown: If you have to ask, don’t eat it.

4-Hour Body – common questions and Q&As

Most of the questions you could possibly ask about 4HB or slow-carb have been answered, whether related to carb-loading for endurance, orgasms, or other. I’ve done a few Q&As over the last few weeks, and I encourage you to check them out — lots of good questions:

4HB Presentation and extended Q&A at Twitter Headquarters [VIDEO]
4HB Presentation and extended Q&A at Twitter Headquarters [AUDIO] (after clicking the link, just wait 45 seconds to download the file for free)
Borders Books Q&A [TEXT]
Presentation and Q&A at Google Headquarters (the preso is the same as Twitter, but the Q&A is different and starts at 18:00)

Audiobook PDF downloads

The PDFs that accompany audiobook downloads (which I have nothing to do with) are apparently really hard to find. Please note: on Audible and elsewhere, there should be a small download link on your purchase confirmation for downloading the PDFs.

4HB reader-generated goodies: desktop wallpaper, etc.

Just for the fun of it, here is some desktop wallpaper created by Cole Morgan.

Media Samples

If you’d like to see how you must compress your sound bites for television, here is a brief clip of me from The View. I REALLY want to get Barbara Walters huge on creatine. She’d look amazing with killer forearms:

I will also be on Dr. Oz this Monday (Jan 24), and it should be a much longer segment and worth seeing. Find your local times here. I’ve been on his radio show twice, and we’ve always had a good time digging into the details. He doesn’t hesitate to challenge.

4HB corrections and typos

Through the editing process, which included more than six passes of the manuscript and a team of copyeditors, typos inevitably ended up in 4HB. I’m thankful to you, my readers, for pointing most of them out. Here are those we’ve found so far. These are my notes sent to the publisher, so forgive the odd formatting, and most bolding has been removed:


“As I double-checked pg.280 of your 4-Hour Body book, I see that you indeed recommend 200 milligrams of the extract, however, the reader suggested that … it should, in fact, be 200 MICROgrams.”

TIM: I’m not sure how this happened, but he’s right. It should be “micrograms (mcg)” NOT milligrams. Please change to “micrograms (mcg)”


2) IODINE TYPO and add to biotin, PG 524

“Hello,??I noticed two typos on page 524:??* Iodine does not have a USRDA value of 1,500 mcg…it is actually 150 mcg.”

TIM: This is correct. Please change to 150 mcg. I don’t know how this happened, as it was accurate at manuscript stage. Needs to be “150 mcg”

“?* Biotin does not have a USRDA value of 30 mcg…it is actually 300 mcg.”

TIM: He is incorrect here, I believe, but we should still update, as Biotin does not have an USRDA. Put “(no USRDA)” next to biotin like a few others.??



“Under DAMAGE CONTROL you state that during your binge you consumed 1 tbsp cinnamon in your coffee. However under THE GLUCOSE SWITCH, when explaining types and quantities of cinnamon you stressed the importance of not exceeding 1.5 teaspoons a day. Which would mean you had consumed double that “safe” amount during your binge. Can you please clarify?”

TIM: “1 tbsp cinnamon” on pg. 101 (under “12:45pm”) is a typo and should be “1 tsp cinnamon”


4) PG. 26

“That is, if you’re a critical intervention patient, such as a morbidly
obese type 1 diabetic.”

Should be changed to “type 2″:

“That is, if you’re a critical intervention patient, such as a morbidly
obese type 2 diabetic.”


5) PG. 116, PAGG

The end result was PAGG.

Policosanol: 20–25 mg
Alpha- lipoic acid: 100–300 mg (I take 300 mg with each meal, but some
people experience acid refl ux symptoms with more than 100 mg)
Green tea fl avanols (decaffeinated with at least 325 mg EGCG):
325 mg
Garlic extract: 200 mg

Daily PAGG intake is timed before meals and bed, which produces a
schedule like this:
Prior to breakfast: AGG
Prior to lunch: AGG
Prior to dinner: AGG
Prior to bed: PAGG

Should be changed to (changes in bold):

The end result was PAGG.

Policosanol: 20–25 mg
Alpha- lipoic acid: 100–300 mg (I take 300 mg with each meal, but some
people experience acid reflux symptoms with even 100 mg)
Green tea flavanols (decaffeinated with at least 325 mg EGCG):
325 mg
Garlic extract: at least 200 mg (I routinely use 650+ mg)

Daily PAGG intake is timed before meals and bed, which produces a
schedule like this:

Prior to breakfast: AGG
Prior to lunch: AGG
Prior to dinner: AGG
Prior to bed: PAG (omit the green tea extract)



“Until further research concludes otherwise, I suggest using an
aged-garlic extract (AGE) with high allicin potential that includes all constituent parts, including S-Allyl cysteine.”

Should be changed to [changes bolded]:

“Until further research concludes otherwise, I suggest using an
aged-garlic extract (AGE) with high allicin potential that includes all constituent parts, including S-Allyl cysteine. If AGE isn’t available, unaged garlic extract appears to work at slightly higher doses.”


I currently use the following products. I have no financial interest in any of them:

Vitamin Shoppe— Allicin 6000 Garlic, 650 mg, 100 caplets (
Mega Green Tea Extract (decaffeinated), 725 mg, 100 capsules (
Vitamin Shoppe— Alpha- Lipoic Acid, 300 mg, 60 capsules (
Nature’s Life— Policosanol, 60 tablets (

Should be changed to (please just copy and paste the below):

I used the following products for my testing, but I’ll update links based on availability and reader feedback. I have no financial interest in any of them:

Allicin 6000 Garlic—650 mg, 100 caplets (
Mega Green Tea Extract— 325+ mg EGCG, 100 capsules (
Vitamin Shoppe—Alpha-Lipoic Acid, 100 mg, 60 capsules (
Nature’s Life— Policosanol, 60 tablets (


7) CHANGE “Heinrich” to “Henrik” on pg. 256, parag 3


8) PG. 15 — “500 scientific citations” needs to be changed to “300 scientific citations”

Posted on: January 21, 2011.

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2,023 comments on “Housecleaning and Clarifications: Blog Content, 4HB Corrections, Competition Winners, Slow-Carb Mistakes, and More

      • Tim,
        Thanks for the update, I am a 43 year old women that had 2 children. I started the 4HB 1/1/11, and have only lost about 2 lbs per week. It is frustrating because I expected more. But I love the kettle bell work out, and I can physically tell I am loosing inches. I will keep the experiment up and see after 12 weeks.


      • Hi I am a 46 year old female with 3 kids and want to tell you that I love this diet. Started it last week Thursday and have lost 4 lbs. I have been working out for years and ran a marathon 2 years ago in 4 hours and 10 minutes. I consider myself above average fit. My body fat as per 1 month ago was 17 % but wanted more visible results. I love this diet! Will keep posting as I continue on my journey to hopefully below 15 % body fat. One question.. Is there a shake that I can subsitute for breakfast? Sometimes all that food is just hard to eat. Thank you!!


      • I have only been on the 4HB for 5 days and lost 4lbs already, but I am having trouble finishing a meal let alone eating 4 meals a day. I am a 42 yr, 4’2″ single mother who is stuffed and would like to know if I can get away with only eating 3 meals a day and less food at each one? Also, I know you dont have to exercise, but will it affect my results if I do?


      • A real quick question: is drinking coconut water allowed on the slow carb diet? I’m not eating the meat of the coconut, just drinking the water.


      • HI Tim! Thank you for 4HB and am dipping into 4HWW now and lovin it. Any way do you or anyone else know if there is fructose in maple syrup? I couldn’t find much online. Can I use it as a sweetener for slow carb diet?
        Also is my new zealand whey protien shake a no no? Its unsweetened but was wondering since its from milk if its off limits for SC diet. You rock! Oh and ditto on the coconut water question.


      • Jason,

        I think it was said elsewhere in the replies. If it tastes sweet, it will mess with insulin and in turn interfere with weight loss.


      • Hi Tim, love your work! just watched your preso @google…. the girl in your powerpoint freaked me out RE: body musculature. it was a bit ick! what kettle-ball w/o changes would you recommend for a female preferring to train to a VS model body shape rather than a female Incredible Hulk (however commendable her training/look may be to other audiences). Thx VLx


      • VLx,

        You may have noticed I’m not Tim.

        Even so I’ll say something. Women (natural, non hormone users) who look relatively large and muscular generally have two things in common:

        -They only look scary when they are working out, when they aren’t all vasculated and pumped they generally look super fine. Some VS models have followed a fairly aggressive training regimen before, do some research on it, it’s fascinating!

        -They work out a lot. Professional athletes will look like professional athletes, bodybuilders like bodybuilders, and an average person who takes care of themselves will look like such.

        I wouldn’t be too scared of some kettlebell swings making you scary looking unless you’re on another two workout programs and eating over ~.8g of protein per 1lb of body mass a day. Even then, you’ll probably realize that you look better that way!


      • Tim – Should I split the 650 MG caplet of Allicin into 1/3 portions (essentially 217 MG per each 1/3 to more closely equal the 200 MG you state as the portion part of each PAGG throughout the day…or do you do 650 MG x 4…Confused. Please help!! Thank you kindly.



      • Tom,

        Maybe your virtual assistant can answer this one for me… What is your take on consuming ephedra on a more rare basis – ex. long plane flights or during trips when you have less time available to work out?


    • Tim- great book- I love to multi-task so trying to combine the Shangri-la diet with the 19 hour daily fast in the longevity chapter- my question is if I take the flax seed oil at night- am I breaking the fast? I eat between 8am-1pm only.
      Thanks in advance.


    • Tim,

      I had a complete thyroidectomy in 2007 which caused me to gain a lot of weight quickly 90 lbs to be exact!

      I am about to start this program after seeing great results of people around me that are using this book.

      Do you have any advice for someone who has no thyroid ( I take the hormones of course), insulin resistance ( YUCK!), and something called PCOS which is common in women who are childbearing age that are overweight. I am a female that is 24 and stand 6’0 tall weighing in at 250.


      • Where can I read the answer4 to the lady who had the thyroidectomy? I recently had mine totally removed (age 67). Am fighting weight gain tooth and nail–and loosing! Maybe gained 30 pounds in 3 months. Getting desperate!


  1. Thanks for the extras, Tim! At a time when a lot of the marketing gurus are preaching maximized prices, you’re truly giving value. (Next book: “The 4-Hour Marketer”?)

    I’m currently experimenting with a few chapters (mostly diet-and-exercise-related), and combining some of your findings with some of mine and others. There’s so much more I want to try when I’m done with that.

    Oh, and people, don’t try eating that tsp of cinnamon all at once! (To get the joke, look up “cinnamon challenge” on YouTube.)


      • Hmmm… back to the lab I go. I’d need to look at the combo of insulinemic and glycemic responses. If possible, I’d also look at glucagon. I’ve noticed lactose as a good correlate to increased fat gain (or decreased fat loss), but I can consume unflavored whey isolate with impunity if I avoid consuming carbs (CHO) simultaneously.

        In all cases, avoid all dairy if you can. I simply use cinnamon in my coffee and skip the cream. It’s takes 2-3 days to learn to like it.

        Thanks for the references, SPS — I wish more people did that.




      • Tim,

        Coffee without milk is fine, but I wanted to see if yoghurt (organic plain with nuts, seeds & cinnamon) would be fine as the fermentation breaks down (some) lactose. But alas, fermented milk has the same insulin response:

        Casein is only slightly better than whey, so cheese is out too:

        Curiously, adding fibre seems to reduce the negative effect:

        Based on your results with whey, it could be that in the absence of carbs & fat (e.g., whey isolate), an insulin peak doesn’t result in fat gain and might slow down proteolysis. The correlation that you found with lactose and weight gain might thus also be observed with any carb & whey, assuming you consumed lactose with whey. But I’m not a biologist, so I should read up more before making any claims. I might do experiments with this, but only after getting to my target bf%.




      • It is not lactose that stimulates the release of insulin into the the blood; it is, as SPS, said the whey or the protein, but this is not a bad thing!

        All high-protein foods, including fish, beef, eggs, beans, etc. (and high fat pastries) stimulate the release of insulin into the blood, though they contain relatively few carbohydrates and a proportionally lower glycemic index (Wikipedia insulin index). Also:

        One, however, seems to be good and the other not so good for a person.
        Insulin is necessary for the uptake of both glucose from ingested carbs and amino acids from ingested proteins (and for many, many various other cellular functions).

        But, it seems, a high-protein meal which is also low in carbs also stimulates the release on insulin’s other half, glucagon. Insulin and glucagon, being opposites, basically neutralize each other; one puts a glucose in a cell, the other takes a glucose out.
        This is the best source i could find:

        A summary, the last sentence of the abstract: “In conclusion, the present data demonstrate that the postprandial rise of amino acid levels in arterialized venous plasma can account for most if not all of the postprandial increase of insulin and glucagon during the ingestion of a protein-rich meal. In contrast, only 35% of postprandial PP [pancreatic polypeptide] levels can be ascribed to the rise of plasma amino acids. In contrast to the effect of carbohydrate-rich meals, an enteric augmentation of insulin release seems to be of minor and possibly of no importance during ingestion of protein-rich meals.”

        I hope this makes sense. I’m think this is right, but it’s possible it’s not.


      • Great book, thanks! I think a found a 4HB approved way of satisfying my latte cravings. I add two shoots of espresso and a few drops of stevia to my micellean protein shake in the morning. I make it with hot water and not too much protein powder. Micellean is kind of like powdered milk without the lactose and fat (or whey). What do you think? 4HB approved? Do I need to alter anything? Or is it one of those ‘if you have to ask’ :)


      • OK so I’m a 6’2″ healthy 200lb guy here trying to loose weight on the SCD with PAGG and regular exercise. I’ve been on the diet now for 3 weeks and yet have not shifted a single pound, I’m still 200lbs!

        I follow the SCD to the letter, with one slight alteration. Due to my size I thought I would take a protein supplement (30grams x 3 times a day) to ensure I get enough protein. I also was very cautious to choose one that was a 100% Whey Protein Isolate with NO sweeteners what so ever, currently the best fit I’ve found for this is the Allmax Isonatural, it has nothing else in it except 100% WPI.

        I’m now wondering though if based on this comment if I should not also cut down or out all together the WPI? Could even this basic WPI still be impacting the fat loss?


      • I was under the impression that kefir, yogurt, and aged cheeses lack lactose. In fact Weston Price people suggested the kefir and yogurt to me when I was trying everything under the sun for my infant son’s formula. I thought he had lactose/milk protein problems but it was actually just pasteurized milk.


    • Hi

      I love the book, especially the chapters on muscle gain and fat loss.

      I have tried to find the answer to this question on the blog as i thought it would be a common query…but i’ve had no luck. Most people who I know who are trying to achieve physique transformation want both fat loss and muscle gain at the same time.

      The chapters in the book are both great for people ‘aiming’ to achieve one of these fitness ‘goals’ (i.e fat loss/muscle gain) but what if someone wants to achieve both at the same time? As you know both fat burning and muscle gain require different nutrition and training modalities. is it just a case of manipulating your diet to fit in with your training at specific times to support either catabolism or anabolism?..i.e reduce carbs/calories on cardio days to support fat loss and increased carbs/calories on weight days to promote muscle gain?

      Also how would you combine the 2 training modalities with rest days/recovery etc? Would the amount of rest days be about the same for the weights even if you were taxing the body more with HIIT?

      What do you think an optimal fat loss/muscle gain training & nutrition regime might look like with exercises/rest days etc?



  2. Thanks for doing this Tim,

    It’s great that you are so active with your book and it keeps evolving and that you aren’t just sitting back.

    It shows true passion (as much as I hate that word!)



  3. Again Tim, thanks for all of this, especially the importance on remembering the PRINCIPLES you preach and not the exact nuts and bolts of what worked for you or your Test Subjects. If you have to ask, DON’T EAT IT is something simple you can remember instead of the list of every recommended food you list in the book. I’d recommend writing down every principle you need to remember and keeping it somewhere you can see it every day. The more you internalize the principles the easier it’ll be to stick to the plan (especially the Slow Carb Diet) because you’ll be doing a lot of this subconsciously.


  4. Thank god for the greentea explaination! I’ve been halving my capsules and taking it as a powder (which is terrible by the way), but I’m glad to know that the 325 was for the EGCG, not the entire dosage size on the label.


  5. A monthly sub for a forum is a bit much. A one time registration fee is sufficient. Numerous internet communities utilize this to be completely effective and deliver quality.


  6. Oh my, Tim, it looks like you were indeed chased by quite an avalanche! :) But what else was to be expected with such a phenomenal book: every action has an equal and opposite reaction after all.

    In any case, thank you for all the info. Today I’ve started my second week of polyphasic sleep… self-experimentation is the way to go :)

    And by the way: it’s great to see all those new videos with you in them.



  7. The book is awesome Tim. I’ve read the first four chapters and started the slow-carb diet which is super easy.

    Also wanted to say the video trailer for the book is great, it would be cool to see that turned into a 30 minute or 1 hour show for television. Anyway, thanks for the great info.


  8. Thanks for the updates. Not even two weeks in and I have dumped 8lbs. I thought that the Alpha-Lipoic amounts were too high, having experimented a bit in the past with this supplement in combination with L-Carnitine (a very good combo). But I said to myself, what the heck, results are results. Having read the book several times now (to get the rules ingrained in my brain), I can honestly say everything works. I especially enjoyed reading the parts about fruit and how it really is not anyone’s friend if they are looking to lose weight. Having read statistics on the dietary intake of Pacific Islanders, one can easily see the role fruit consumption has on on obesity.


  9. Regarding all the people who say they don’t see results with the slow-carb diet: The Glucose Switch should be required reading for people trying to lose fat. You don’t say that it is at the beginning of the book, yet in that chapter you state that even low-carb meals (and therefore presumably slow-carb meals) cause fattening glucose spikes if eaten quickly.

    If eating too quickly can ruin an otherwise great diet, then the chapter on eating slowly should be mandatory, not optional. I also recommend Ice Age to everyone, as drinking ice water and putting a cold pack on the back of your neck is just about the most effort-effective fat-loss trick ever, and I see no reason for anyone not to do it.


    • Loving the slow-carb way, but I’m just at the early stages – 10 days in and 5 lbs loss. I’m experimenting on a variation of the ice age – the wet T-shirt. I thought maybe part of the 12,000 calories that Michael Phelps needs is not just because of BAT but the whole water immersion factor – so I’m wearing a wet T shirt around the house and finding that the evaporation is speeding the weight loss and for me is easier to do than to be stationary with ice.


    • I tried the ice pack on my neck and got my period within 3 days. I’m breast feeding and have only gotten it once since having my baby. The first time was at three months after the birth and the second time was after the ice packs. (I’m still nursing) This could be a total fluke but was wondering if the ice also stimulates certain hormones that would cause this, and would those hormones affect my baby through breast milk..Any ideas?


  10. The “gear” portion of this website is a hidden (well, not anymore) gem!

    Great stuff Tim. Thanks for answering the questions so we can direct people (that would’ve otherwise tried to clog up your lines of communication) to them here.


    – Josh


  11. Really looking forward to private paid forum. I entered to be one of the 100. I am so into this. This may be a cult. Oh no. AM I in a cult? Kidding of course. Thanks for catering to your readers.


  12. Thanks for the guidance, Tim, I have checked in on the site a few times and have seen some conversations about an upcoming forum site, and was wondering about the status of that? I am finishing my first week of slow carb and am looking forward to cheating tomorrow!

    I really enjoy cooking- unlike several of the examples in the book- and I already made the fake mashed potatoes (cauliflower) you referenced in the book. They were really good so I am hoping to get some more ideas like this… maybe a great forum topic!

    Its too early to talk results yet (though I have enjoyed increased energy, but that may just be the green tea!) but in any case the book is fascinating. Thanks again!


  13. Thanks Tim,

    I did the slow car. Diet about a year ago (from your blog) and it worked
    like crazy. This time it’s going well but without the dramatic results.

    However I know for sure the difference us in my implementation. The first time I was super strict, while this time I’ve allowed myself (small amounts of) milk and cheese etc.

    The devil is definitely in the detail.

    Thanks for the follow up info.


    • The Devil is DEFINITELY in the details. The difference between strict and a little can be the difference between success and failure. True with many things in life. Try getting a little pregnant or cheating a little on a spouse! Some things are absolutes.



      • The devil is in the details hmmmmm…

        Can you elaborate on why Quinoa is prohibited on this diet. Quinoa was supposed to be my saving grace since I am struggling with eating enough protein. Also, what do you think about Shirataki noodles? So far, I’ve still managed to get results.


      • Hey Tim,
        Regarding the strictness of this diet: I am doing well and enjoying new recipes but I am concerned with my milk production or other issues (I am breastfeeding my 5 month old)….have there been any studies with breastfeeding participants?


      • in response to Mische – my bf is doing this diet. I am not. But I am 33 and I breast fed all 3 of my kids. I weigh 122 to 125lbs and I am 5 foot 7 inches. I just wanted to say that I’m a vegan and if you are breast feeding and on this diet please take extra trouble to make sure you eat the recommended caloric intake for a breast feeding woman- the positive thing for you is that by breast feeding you are burning off more calories just sitting there feeding your baby than you would by not breast feeding at all- so GOOD FOR YOU! That will help! So make sure you consume those calories girl and your milk production should not decline- also make sure you drink a ton of water! I know I struggled on my diet being a vegan and trying to eat all the extra calories for my breast milk so it wouldn’t decline but if you take the trouble to make sure you do it then you shouldn’t have any problems with your milk production and you should still experience weight loss on this diet but how much you loss might be affected either positively or negatively due to your breast feeding. What matters most is that you are taking care of yourself and your baby! Good job! hi5!


      • Hi, Tim! I am just 3 days into the diet and want to make sure I AM following the diet precisely for maximum results, but I do have one question: In the book you mention using salsa with corn (I’m sorry, I neglected to note the page #). I have always considered corn a starch with high sugar content so assumed it was off limits. Because you mentioned in the book using the salsa containing it, I’m wondering if a little is ok in something such as bean and corn salsa, which is something I love and a great way for me to get my bean count higher. Thanks for your time!